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Jan 21, 2011 8:26 PM
Just heard it on ESPN Radio. Sorry if this was already posted.
Jan 21, 2011 8:26pm
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Jan 21, 2011 10:15 PM
wow! Hmm that makes things interesting. I am waiting on the tin foiled hat conspiracy theorists to come and explain this to me. I thought the Rays (and everybody except the Yanks and Sawks) weren't capable of signing free agents? I love how the Rays selling high on Matt Garza = a flaw with the system
Jan 21, 2011 10:15pm
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Jan 22, 2011 1:48 AM
Manny signed for 2 million and Damon 5.25.

Garza will sign for 5.95 million.

Garza was expendable because of the Rays had 6 starting pitchers(why they didnt trade for ML ready talent to replace one of the guys they lost, I do not know).

Also Vernon Wells got traded to the Angels for Matt Napoli.....Vlad Guerrero you are on the clock.
Jan 22, 2011 1:48am
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Jan 22, 2011 1:56 AM
Too bad it's not 1998.
Jan 22, 2011 1:56am
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Jan 22, 2011 9:39 AM
Sonofanump;647746 wrote:Too bad it's not 1998.

Haha I thought something similar but maybe not back to 1998. I like the deal so that they can alternate. One guy fills in at a corner outfield spot and the other DH's. This will allow Ben Zobrist to be the full time first basemen. Or as I typed that, didn't Damon play a little first?

Either way I don't think this move hurts and hopefully will help fill the Trop. In other Rays news, Dirk Hayhurst of Canton signed with the Rays as well. He's a good guy, and wrote one of the best baseball books in recent years which was a New York Times best seller.
Jan 22, 2011 9:39am
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Jan 22, 2011 10:55 AM
As long as they are smart and only play these guys a few times a week. Manny maybe can still go a full season, as his injuries arent a producut of playing imo, just bad luck. But Damon seemed to slow down a lot the last few years after the break.

...as for the system. Manny and Damon arent exactly what you call high quality FA....
Jan 22, 2011 10:55am
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Jan 22, 2011 10:56 AM
no no no Laley dont you understand? OBVIOUSLY the Rays and other small market teams can still contend...I mean look, they signed these quality FA's only 5 years removed from their prime haha
Jan 22, 2011 10:56am
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Jan 22, 2011 11:02 AM
The Rays will make the playoffs this season and the Yankees will not. You heard it right here
Jan 22, 2011 11:02am
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Jan 22, 2011 11:03 AM
LMAO at jordo. I guess this move outweighs all the other moves that completely go against your failed logic /sarcasm.

Glad to see you are that desperate that you cite this move to prove your point. The rays signed two former stars who now currently became journeymen. lolfail. I bet you thought seattle made a big time move when they signed Ken Griffey Jr at the end of his career.
Jan 22, 2011 11:03am
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Jan 22, 2011 11:18 AM
jordo212000;647895 wrote:The Rays will make the playoffs this season and the Yankees will not. You heard it right here

I wont disagree with that, because the Yankees have exactly 1 starting pitcher.
Jan 22, 2011 11:18am
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Jan 22, 2011 4:40 PM
like_that;647896 wrote:LMAO at jordo. I guess this move outweighs all the other moves that completely go against your failed logic /sarcasm.

Glad to see you are that desperate that you cite this move to prove your point. The rays signed two former stars who now currently became journeymen. lolfail. I bet you thought seattle made a big time move when they signed Ken Griffey Jr at the end of his career.
The Yankees "big splashes" this past offseason consisted of Russell Martin who has been just an average catcher the past couple of seasons and Rafael Soriano. That's it. Please stop pretending like the Yankees were opening up their checkbook all offseason.

The Rays core paired with these two acquisitions put them right there with the Red Sox. The Rays can pitch with absolutely anybody. You haven't been following baseball if you think Johnny Damon is "washed up" There is a reason the Red Sox were trying to trade for him at the deadline this past season. As for Manny, he appeared to have lost a little bit of his mojo last year. Low risk, high reward move if you ask me. All Manny has ever wanted to do, was just hit the baseball. Now he can do that in Tampa. He no longer has to play defense (which is a relief to both he and Tampa) and he can conserve his energy.

Like I said before, you keep talking about how baseball's system has failed the Rays because they do not have the same team as last year, however I think they will not miss much of a beat at all. Jennings is Crawford 2.0, Pena hit below .200, and Garza was wildly inconsistent as a pitcher. Garza also seemed to be somewhat of a headcase.

You are correct that neither of these guys are people you build your team around, and they aren't who they were 5 years ago. But you do not build your team through free agency in baseball. You must have a good core of home grown guys and you must accentuate that talent by picking and choosing quality free agents.
Jan 22, 2011 4:40pm
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Jan 22, 2011 4:42 PM
Manny as a DH for only 2 Mill a year is a good move. IMO
Jan 22, 2011 4:42pm
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Jan 23, 2011 9:40 AM
I'm not overly impressed with the Rays moves. They had to make some, to attempt to replace what they lost, but frankly, Manny and Johnny have seen better days. They relatively inexpensive aquisitions that won't hurt and may help. At least they will compete which is better than what the Indians are doing.
Jan 23, 2011 9:40am
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Jan 25, 2011 3:29 AM
jordo212000;647895 wrote:The Rays will make the playoffs this season and the Yankees will not. You heard it right here
Now if only the Reds would pick up Ricky Henderson and Don Mattingly they would cake walk over the Phillies this year. LMAO!!

What a shame that Manny has to hang on like this and ruin a damn good legacy
Jan 25, 2011 3:29am