just_a_swimmer
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Jan 21, 2011 8:11pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6045698
Thoughts? His resume seems pretty good when he is not a head coach. He's had success being position coach and defensive coordinator.
Thoughts? His resume seems pretty good when he is not a head coach. He's had success being position coach and defensive coordinator.
Art Modell
Posts: 2,338
Jan 21, 2011 8:20pm
I reported this in another thread around 7 hours ago. Old news.
just_a_swimmer
Posts: 674
Jan 21, 2011 8:49pm
Art Modell;647463 wrote:I reported this in another thread around 7 hours ago. Old news.
damn i tried to find it. went back until last night. sorry delete this one.
just_a_swimmer
Posts: 674
Jan 21, 2011 8:59pm
Well Art i found it in the 2011 off season/draft thread but it wasn't you that posted it. Is there a rule that we are not permitted to make threads if somebody makes a post on a previous thread that really merits a thread of it's own. DA I can't believe you actually took credit for someone else's post or maybe I couldn't find your post. It may be old news but what does that matter. I didn't post that this was breaking news.
Art Modell
Posts: 2,338
Jan 21, 2011 9:08pm
I reported this in the coaching changes thread around 8 hrs ago. Go fuck yourself.
just_a_swimmer
Posts: 674
Jan 21, 2011 9:30pm
Oh please. whatever not going there with you.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jan 21, 2011 10:16pm
just_a_swimmer;647536 wrote:Oh please. whatever not going there with you.
Dont worry. Nobody pays attention to that guy
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Jan 21, 2011 10:19pm
He'll be headed back here soon.....
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 21, 2011 11:10pm
LOOOOOOOOVE the hire. He's the guy I wanted when I figured Rob Ryan wasn't going to be retained.
Dick has proved his worth in this league, and his experience to go along with a rookie HC is BIG. He knows how to run a defense too.
Dick has proved his worth in this league, and his experience to go along with a rookie HC is BIG. He knows how to run a defense too.
Art Modell
Posts: 2,338
Jan 21, 2011 11:24pm
hoops23;647651 wrote:LOOOOOOOOVE the hire. He's the guy I wanted when I figured Rob Ryan wasn't going to be retained.
Dick has proved his worth in this league, and his experience to go along with a rookie HC is BIG. He knows how to run a defense too.
We'll see. Go Holmgren Go!!!
hoops23
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Jan 21, 2011 11:26pm
0_o
shook_17
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Jan 21, 2011 11:59pm
Art Modell;647675 wrote:We'll see. Go Holmgren Go!!!
whats it like being a douche bag?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 22, 2011 12:39am
lol capone really is trying to get back in the basement before the steelers game.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jan 22, 2011 8:53am
Could turn out to be a solid hire. Jauron did well as a coordinator and some guys just aren't head coach material.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jan 22, 2011 8:57am
KR1245;647587 wrote:Dont worry. Nobody pays attention to that guy
this.
I am just happy they didn't hire Wanny....hate that guy.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jan 22, 2011 9:27am
I like the hire...IMO he's the right guy to lead the change to the 4-3.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 22, 2011 10:57am
Love this hire. Im a huge fan of coordinators that fail as Head Coaches. They always seem to do well.
Y-Town Steelhound
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Jan 22, 2011 4:49pm
Laley23;647892 wrote:Love this hire. Im a huge fan of coordinators that fail as Head Coaches. They always seem to do well.
I agree...Just look at Dick LeBeau. One of the greatest coordinators of all time....terrible head coach.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 22, 2011 5:01pm
ehh not a fan of this move. He's a smart guy, but I would have tried to keep Ryan around for as long as I could. Dumb move to let him walk away. Their defense was actually pretty formidable last season.
To me, these offseason coaching changes just seemed like it was changing for the sake of changing. We can argue about whether or not Shurmur will be a better HC than Mangini, but to me there is no question that Ryan is a better DC than Jauron will ever be. Never a smart decision to downgrade your coaching staff
To me, these offseason coaching changes just seemed like it was changing for the sake of changing. We can argue about whether or not Shurmur will be a better HC than Mangini, but to me there is no question that Ryan is a better DC than Jauron will ever be. Never a smart decision to downgrade your coaching staff
GoChiefs
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Jan 22, 2011 6:15pm
Pretty sure I would have taken Jauron's defense this year over Ryan's defense.
Laley23
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Jan 22, 2011 7:44pm
Not to mention, its tough to keep a guy who doesnt want to stay. Dallas came calling, and Ryan jumped.
hoops23
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Jan 22, 2011 7:55pm
jordo212000;648373 wrote:ehh not a fan of this move. He's a smart guy, but I would have tried to keep Ryan around for as long as I could. Dumb move to let him walk away. Their defense was actually pretty formidable last season.
To me, these offseason coaching changes just seemed like it was changing for the sake of changing. We can argue about whether or not Shurmur will be a better HC than Mangini, but to me there is no question that Ryan is a better DC than Jauron will ever be. Never a smart decision to downgrade your coaching staff
WTF?
I'm pretty sure stats wouldn't back up your claim.
I loved rob Ryan as much as anybody, but his defensive rankings have NEVER been that great. I'd sometimes get frustrated with his inability to adapt to a game. Our defense could not get pressure on anybody, yet he'd continue to try and blitz while our secondary is getting burnt.
Also, the Browns had trouble stopping teams when they needed too.
IMO, as much as I liked the guy, he's a bit overrated as a DC, just because of who his brother is.
Dick Jauron is a legit and established DC. He failed as a HC, but many great Coordinators do.
Art Modell
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Jan 22, 2011 8:03pm
It's no secret that Ryan wanted out of Cleveland. Where would you rather coach Cleveland or Dallas?That's a no brainer my friends.
hoops23
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Jan 22, 2011 8:06pm
It's actually not that Ryan wanted out of Cleveland.. He wanted to stay....With Mangini.
However, when Mangini was fired, Ryan knew he wasn't coming back either, so the Browns let him pursue other options.
Stop being a dumbass for one night Capone, or is it truly to hard for you to just talk football without all the BS nonsense?
However, when Mangini was fired, Ryan knew he wasn't coming back either, so the Browns let him pursue other options.
Stop being a dumbass for one night Capone, or is it truly to hard for you to just talk football without all the BS nonsense?
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jan 22, 2011 9:13pm
hoops23;648545 wrote:Stop being a dumbass for one night Capone, or is it truly to hard for you to just talk football without all the BS nonsense?
I agree. Give it a rest already.
Anways, I really like this hire. As others have already said, a DC with experience will really help out a rookie HC.