 
                                                                derek bomar
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 9:45am
                            
                        
                                we're slackin on our pimpin....
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-china-military-20110107,0,3324067.story
personally, I don't give two shits if China can do this or not, as any war we fight with them is the end of days anyway
                        http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-china-military-20110107,0,3324067.story
personally, I don't give two shits if China can do this or not, as any war we fight with them is the end of days anyway
ptown_trojans_1
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 10:07am
                            
                        
                                Here is a pretty good article on the bird:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/awst/2011/01/03/AW_01_03_2011_p18-279564.xml&headline=China%27s%20J-20%20Stealth%20Fighter%20In%20Taxi%20Tests
It is still years away from being deployed and is an offshoot of the new Russian fighter. Thing is the bird is huge, and I mean huge, bigger than an F-22, which is large.
But, all of this goes to the image that China is rising miltiary wise to combat the U.S. and I'm not so sure of the evidence yet.
It simply appears China is simply updating their miltiary, which all countries do.
Sure, other states in the region are a little worried, but I don't think this really changes things.
                        http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/awst/2011/01/03/AW_01_03_2011_p18-279564.xml&headline=China%27s%20J-20%20Stealth%20Fighter%20In%20Taxi%20Tests
It is still years away from being deployed and is an offshoot of the new Russian fighter. Thing is the bird is huge, and I mean huge, bigger than an F-22, which is large.
But, all of this goes to the image that China is rising miltiary wise to combat the U.S. and I'm not so sure of the evidence yet.
It simply appears China is simply updating their miltiary, which all countries do.
Sure, other states in the region are a little worried, but I don't think this really changes things.
 
                                                                Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 10:18am
                            
                        ptown_trojans_1;628918 wrote:Here is a pretty good article on the bird:
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/awst/2011/01/03/AW_01_03_2011_p18-279564.xml&headline=China%27s%20J-20%20Stealth%20Fighter%20In%20Taxi%20Tests
It is still years away from being deployed and is an offshoot of the new Russian fighter. Thing is the bird is huge, and I mean huge, bigger than an F-22, which is large.
But, all of this goes to the image that China is rising miltiary wise to combat the U.S. and I'm not so sure of the evidence yet.
It simply appears China is simply updating their miltiary, which all countries do.
Sure, other states in the region are a little worried, but I don't think this really changes things.
Lets sign a meaningless "Treaty" that will alway be the first line of defence to limit the future development of weapons.
 
                                                                FatHobbit
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 10:21am
                            
                        isn't the point of a stealth fighter to "surprise" someone?China's development of stealth fighter takes U.S. by surprise
ptown_trojans_1
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 10:21am
                            
                        Belly35;628929 wrote:Lets sign a meaningless "Treaty" that will alway be the first line of defence to limit the future development of weapons.
What treaty?'
What limit?
Huh?
 
                                                                Belly35
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 10:33am
                            
                        It was a stealth joke and you missed it ...........ptown_trojans_1;628934 wrote:What treaty?'
What limit?
Huh?
ptown_trojans_1
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 10:36am
                            
                        Belly35;628947 wrote:It was a stealth joke and you missed it ...........
ok......
IggyPride00
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 10:39am
                            
                        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40961787/ns/world_news-asiapacific/China announced a smaller-than-usual 7.5 percent increase to $76.3 billion last year — the second largest defense budget in the world behind the United States.
I saw this in an article this morning about Gates going over there and it is mind blowing. Even assuming they are understating what they are really spending on defense, we are still spending almost 6 or 7 times what they are.
People wonder why our country is going broke and China is eating our lunch. The second largest military budget in the world is probably around $120 billion (probably closer to what China is actually spending) and we are up around $700 billion and that doesn't even take into account absolutely all of the war and other misc. spending.
 
                                                                Mr. 300
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 2:48pm
                            
                        
                                Belly, PTown's a huge nerd...he misses things a lot.
                            
                        ptown_trojans_1
                                                                            
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                                Jan 7, 2011 4:17pm
                            
                        Mr. 300;629268 wrote:Belly, PTown's a huge nerd...he misses things a lot.
Hahaha. True, true.
I prefer the term wonk though, but yes, I'm a huge nerd.
 
                                                                believer
                                                                            
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                                Jan 8, 2011 11:54am
                            
                        You sound like a Russian, Ptown.ptown_trojans_1;628934 wrote:What treaty?'
What limit?
Huh?
ptown_trojans_1
                                                                            
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                                Jan 8, 2011 12:23pm
                            
                        Better red than deadbeliever;629888 wrote:You sound like a Russian, Ptown.