1. New England 12-2 (1)
2. Atlanta 12-2 (2)

3. Philadelphia 10-4 (6)
...Seems like they have the It factor this year with Vick, all the speed, Andy Reid trying to win finally.

4. Pittsburgh 10-4 (4)
5. Baltimore 10-4 (5)
6. New Orleans 10-4 (3)
7. N.Y. Jets 10-4 (8)
...These teams are all close but I put Pittsburgh at the top because they lead their division.

8. Chicago 10-4 (10)
...That's an important race for No. 2 in the NFC between the Eagles and Bears.

9. San Diego 8-6 (12)
10. Indianapolis 8-6 (13)
11. N.Y. Giants 9-5 (7)
12. Kansas City 9-5 (14)
13. Jacksonville 8-6 (9)
14. Green Bay 8-6 (11)

15. Oakland 7-7 (17)
16. Dallas 5-9 (18)
17. Tampa Bay 8-6 (15)
18. Miami 7-7 (16)
19. Tennessee 6-8 (25)
20. Houston 5-9 (19)
21. Minnesota 5-9 (21)
22. Buffalo 4-10 (27)
23. St. Louis 6-8 (22)
24. Cleveland 5-9 (20)
25. Detroit 4-10 (28)
26. Seattle 6-8 (24)
27. San Francisco 5-9 (23)
28. Washington 5-9 (26)

29. Cincinnati 3-11 (30)
...I know they beat Cleveland but still only a two-point win at home after losing 10 in a row.
30. Arizona 4-10 (29)
31. Denver 3-11 (31)
32. Carolina 2-12 (32)

How does Baltimore beat the Saints and not pass the Steelers?

bigdaddy2003;609003 wrote:How does Baltimore beat the Saints and not pass the Steelers?

Steelers are leading the division...that's how.

WOOO!!!

Every week I get angry looking at these and I don't know why. They don't mean anything.

I think the Ravens are a slightly better team than the Steelers. A little younger it seems.

However, they choked at home so right now the Steelers lead the division.

I think better seeding = better odds = more power when it's close.

I'm really curious to see where not only you, but some of the paid analysts, rank the Browns at the end of the season. Last year they ended on a winning streak and this year they will likely end on a losing streak.

Now the problem with that is Chicago beat Philadelphia and currently has the No. 2 seed in the NFC because of that head-to-head win.

But I still like Philly more. After Atlanta, if you had to say right now which team in the NFC will make the Super Bowl, I'd take the Eagles.

thedynasty1998;609045 wrote:I'm really curious to see where not only you, but some of the paid analysts, rank the Browns at the end of the season. Last year they ended on a winning streak and this year they will likely end on a losing streak.

They're not making the playoffs, so the only rank that matters to them is their draft rank.

The thing I like about Philadelphia is that they will likely have a first round home game, if they win that they could play their next two games in domes and on turf. That plays into Philadelphia's strength more so than any other team in the NFL. No one wants to play Vick, Macklin and Jackson on turf because of their speed, even if they are the road team.

Non;609044 wrote:I think the Ravens are a slightly better team than the Steelers. A little younger it seems.

However, they choked at home so right now the Steelers lead the division.

I think better seeding = better odds = more power when it's close.

So are you saying the steelers won't make the super bowl? If you think the ravens are better, then you must think the patriots are too. Steelers will have to play one of those teams in the playoffs and based on what you said you think they'll lose. Although, if they do lose you'll probably blame the refs.

^^Good point.

The Bears were able to contain the Eagles. I guess that field plays a little slower than the others.

Chicago needs that advantage as the No. 2 seed if they're going to play the No. 3 seed Philadelphia.

That's an important race these past two weeks.

Raw Dawgin' it;609057 wrote:So are you saying the steelers won't make the super bowl? If you think the ravens are better, then you must think the patriots are too. Steelers will have to play one of those teams in the playoffs and based on what you said you think they'll lose. Although, if they do lose you'll probably blame the refs.

I think if the Ravens and Steelers meet again on a neutral field (obviously that's impossible) or in Baltimore, the Ravens would win.

But if the Steelers remain the No. 2 seed, they're in a better position than Baltimore to reach the AFC Championship, having to only win one at home, compared to Baltimore, which would have to win two road games.

Jets and Ravens -- if they remain the wild card teams -- were better off with Kansas City and Jacksonville as the division winners.

If San Diego and Indianapolis end up being those teams, I'd say both of those games become pretty even.

Raw Dawgin' it;609057 wrote:So are you saying the steelers won't make the super bowl?

The way New England is playing it's hard not to have them as the heavy favorites right now.

I think if the Steelers are able to clinch the No. 2 seed they'll have a good shot to win one. They'll be at home for a playoff game. Rested up against a team that has played the week before. Probably Polamalu and Aaron Smith in the lineup.

If the Steelers choke and end up in the wild card, they won't go anywhere. They're kind of an older team and they need that week off.

I'm not sure the Steelers will beat anyone at home......I don't think their playing surface and homefield does them any favors.

I'd still rather be No. 2 than No. 5 or No. 6 more often than not.

I know they made the Super Bowl in 2005 as the No. 6 but that's a special run to do that.

I'm pretty pumped for the playoffs.

Oh....I want the two seed if anything but for rest of the big guys.

If Pittsburgh can get into the playoffs with the 2 seed and the week of rest lets guys like Polamalu and Aaron Smith and Keisel get into better shape injury wise then I definitely feel a lot better about our chances. Heath Miller coming back helps on third downs and in the red zone.

Ed Bouchette mentioned on the Post Gazette that Spaeth was targeted eight times.

You wish Miller would get that many looks.

Obviously teams don't respect Spaeth so that leaves him open more times but still now that Johnson has emerged as a good blocking tight end, they could get the ball to Miller more.