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dave
Posts: 4,558
Dec 10, 2010 12:09am
$12mil option for 7th yr
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Dec 10, 2010 12:11am
Damn was just getting ready to post this lol
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5904871
HUGE for the Reds, Hopefully Votto is next
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5904871
HUGE for the Reds, Hopefully Votto is next
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 10, 2010 12:24am
Good value. A lot of years though!
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 10, 2010 12:29am
No need to get Votto right now. He's here for three more years anyways...maybe after next year look to get an extension.osu45804;594908 wrote:Damn was just getting ready to post this lol
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5904871
HUGE for the Reds, Hopefully Votto is next
Great news about Bruce! Awesome that he'll be around for quite awhile!
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
Dec 10, 2010 1:01am
Thank god, my Jay Bruce jersey is good for another 6 years! Phew!
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Dec 10, 2010 1:23am
that's a lot more than I thought he'd get
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 10, 2010 8:02am
good. This is something you have to do if you are small market. Offer long extensions when the players are still relatively poor 
and hope they leap at it
and hope they leap at it
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 10, 2010 9:46am
Very nice!!
I think Votto deserves to get paid now to. NL MVP made 525k last year.
I think Votto deserves to get paid now to. NL MVP made 525k last year.
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Dec 10, 2010 10:33am
Not a bad deal..... here is to hoping he stays healthy
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Dec 10, 2010 11:16am
AWESOME! Would hate to see them not AT LEAST match this for Votto.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Dec 10, 2010 11:41am
Love it.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 10, 2010 12:24pm
They are said to already be trying to talk to Votto about an extensionernest_t_bass;595172 wrote:AWESOME! Would hate to see them not AT LEAST match this for Votto.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 10, 2010 1:24pm
That's exactly why it's time to try to sign him now, the Reds have the upperhand at this time. He can either make a nominal salary for the next 3 years or get paid now. The closer you get to the end of the contract, the more leverage Votto has.sherm03;594916 wrote:No need to get Votto right now. He's here for three more years anyways...maybe after next year look to get an extension.
Great news about Bruce! Awesome that he'll be around for quite awhile!
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
Dec 10, 2010 2:21pm
Votto will be making much more than he was making last year because he is arbitration eligible anyways, just not nearly as much as he would make with a new contract.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Dec 10, 2010 3:25pm
Nice. Bruce will only get better and better.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Dec 10, 2010 3:28pm
Even if Joey has 3 years left, I sign him for 3 more years and up it big time. We need Joey Votto. We don't want to lose him to the Yanks or Sox in 3 years. Votto and Bruce are essentially to any future of the Reds being successful.
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Dec 10, 2010 5:38pm
Overpaid Jay Bruce. Who would you all rather have? Jay Bruce or Shin Shoo Choo?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 10, 2010 6:51pm
Sorry but 51 mill over 6 years in today's MLB is not overpaying
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 10, 2010 10:57pm
september63;595690 wrote:Overpaid Jay Bruce. Who would you all rather have? Jay Bruce or Shin Shoo Choo?
How do you expect them to get Choo? haha
This was a very good deal for the Reds. Go look at Jason Werth's contract
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
Dec 11, 2010 12:12am
september63;595690 wrote:Overpaid Jay Bruce. Who would you all rather have? Jay Bruce or Shin Shoo Choo?
Is this a serious question?
Jay Bruce is like 5 years younger, hits for more power, is a better right fielder, and hasn't even had his best year yet.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 11, 2010 12:21am
Mooney44Cards;595914 wrote:Is this a serious question?
Jay Bruce is like 5 years younger, hits for more power, is a better right fielder, and hasn't even had his best year yet.
Jay Bruce is a nice player and I really like him, plus he has great potential. But right now if I have a choice, I take Choo every time. Great blend of power, hitting, and speed.
He is 5 years older yes, but he is only 28. (That speaks to how young Bruce actually is)
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 11, 2010 12:46am
Mooney44Cards;595914 wrote:Is this a serious question?
Jay Bruce is like 5 years younger, hits for more power, is a better right fielder, and hasn't even had his best year yet.
The only thing that Bruce has on Choo is age. In time, because of his age he could pass Choo in other categories, but not now.
He hits for the same power and slugging. Less RBI, less doubles, less steals, less BA, less OBP. more Ks, less BB, not as good an arm. Fielding is not entirely comparable, but both are very good. Choo is well above average, Ive not seen Bruce in the field enough.
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
Dec 11, 2010 1:40am
Jay Bruce will beat Shin Soo Choo in about every offensive category in 2011. Write that down.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 11, 2010 2:25am
Mooney44Cards;595971 wrote:Jay Bruce will beat Shin Soo Choo in about every offensive category in 2011. Write that down.
Average - Choo. I doubt Bruce ever hits .300 and that is what Choo has hit every year hes been up
OBP - Choo. He will be at .400 again.
OPS - Toss up. Ill go Bruce. His slugging will be higher than Choos compared to Choos OBP being higher than Bruce.
HR - Bruce. He can hit over 30, Choo will max out at 25 in a good year
SLG - Bruce. Because of the HR
RBI - Ill go with Choo. This is close, but the edge goes to the 3 hole hitter versus the 5 spot. 20 more for Choo this year and thats tough to make-up
SB - Choo. Not close.
BB - Choo. Again, I doubt its close. Choo is going to be pitched around more and more.
K - Choo. Bruce can level his Ks off quite a bit, but I doubt its down to less than Choo, who I expect to be up as he presses a bit. This will be close.
2B - Toss up. Choo will get his 30, but I think Bruce can do that as well.
Thats my thoughts going into the season.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Dec 11, 2010 8:20am
Choo has a better arm than Bruce Bruce?? ur crazy!!