
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Dec 9, 2010 4:30pm
Man, can you believe this. This is what happens when the people get used to all the cushy government perks and subsidies and the government realizes it can't keep proving them. I really feel sorry for the students there, the tuition went from 3000 pounds to 9000 pounds a year.
That's $14,000 a year and they are rioting and destroying government property. What a bunch of bullshit. I'd love to find a university in the U.S. that only charges 14,000 a year, not counting junior college or a satellite campus. They have it fucking easy and shouldn't complain at all.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101209/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_tuition_tangle
That's $14,000 a year and they are rioting and destroying government property. What a bunch of bullshit. I'd love to find a university in the U.S. that only charges 14,000 a year, not counting junior college or a satellite campus. They have it fucking easy and shouldn't complain at all.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101209/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_tuition_tangle
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Dec 9, 2010 4:38pm
Yeah...I have a buddy in London and works around the areas where they are rioting. He equates to more of a pissed off, social angst mad at the government for young people sort of thing.
But, he agrees that tuition rates are a little high, just not the whole rioting thing. The fact that it is such a hike is a little messed up.
And, if you take out room and board, OSU's tuition is around $9.5k year.
http://undergrad.osu.edu/money-matters/tuition-and-fees.html
But, he agrees that tuition rates are a little high, just not the whole rioting thing. The fact that it is such a hike is a little messed up.
And, if you take out room and board, OSU's tuition is around $9.5k year.
http://undergrad.osu.edu/money-matters/tuition-and-fees.html

BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Dec 9, 2010 9:12pm
Nope...closer to $11,000...I'm paying for 2 at Thee Ohio State University right nowptown_trojans_1;594342 wrote:Yeah...I have a buddy in London and works around the areas where they are rioting. He equates to more of a pissed off, social angst mad at the government for young people sort of thing.
But, he agrees that tuition rates are a little high, just not the whole rioting thing. The fact that it is such a hike is a little messed up.
And, if you take out room and board, OSU's tuition is around $9.5k year.
http://undergrad.osu.edu/money-matters/tuition-and-fees.html

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 9, 2010 9:14pm
That's the reaction you get when people believe they are entitled to everything the government can give them, and economic reality sets in.
We're not that far behind Britain in that mindset. Hell, it's all but become the platform of the Democrats that government owes you just about anything you want.
We're not that far behind Britain in that mindset. Hell, it's all but become the platform of the Democrats that government owes you just about anything you want.

believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 10, 2010 4:35am
This is a perfect example of the pitfalls of socialism. Europe in general has embraced socialism for decades with government paid or subsidized health care, education, retirement, etc.
Liberal European governments have set-up these alleged social "security" nets based on bogus ponzi-style tax schemes in the hope that the overall economy would remain reasonably healthy for the foreseeable future.
The world has now endured a sustained severe recession causing government tax coffers to run dry. The piper wants paid but the European governments are now writing bad checks.
Look at Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland. Britain and France are in dire straits. Germany is footing the bill for all of them and growing concerned that they, too, are near the breaking point.
What's breathtaking about all of this is that while Europe is a classic example of the failure of socialism, in recent years it seems that Americans want European-style socialism with the election of BHO and the Dem-controlled Congress.
And while Republicans have proved that they are as inclined to spend as much as Democrats, I'm still hopeful that with Republican control of the House, the recent quest towards the failed European socialist experiment will slow a bit.
Liberal European governments have set-up these alleged social "security" nets based on bogus ponzi-style tax schemes in the hope that the overall economy would remain reasonably healthy for the foreseeable future.
The world has now endured a sustained severe recession causing government tax coffers to run dry. The piper wants paid but the European governments are now writing bad checks.
Look at Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland. Britain and France are in dire straits. Germany is footing the bill for all of them and growing concerned that they, too, are near the breaking point.
What's breathtaking about all of this is that while Europe is a classic example of the failure of socialism, in recent years it seems that Americans want European-style socialism with the election of BHO and the Dem-controlled Congress.
And while Republicans have proved that they are as inclined to spend as much as Democrats, I'm still hopeful that with Republican control of the House, the recent quest towards the failed European socialist experiment will slow a bit.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 10, 2010 5:37am
Anytime you triple the cost of something there's bound to be a large negative reaction reaction, entitlement attitude or not.

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Dec 10, 2010 8:01am
Must've been studying The Berkley Crowd.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Dec 10, 2010 9:22am
believer;594985 wrote:This is a perfect example of the pitfalls of socialism. Europe in general has embraced socialism for decades with government paid or subsidized health care, education, retirement, etc.
Liberal European governments have set-up these alleged social "security" nets based on bogus ponzi-style tax schemes in the hope that the overall economy would remain reasonably healthy for the foreseeable future.
The world has now endured a sustained severe recession causing government tax coffers to run dry. The piper wants paid but the European governments are now writing bad checks.
Look at Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland. Britain and France are in dire straits. Germany is footing the bill for all of them and growing concerned that they, too, are near the breaking point.
What's breathtaking about all of this is that while Europe is a classic example of the failure of socialism, in recent years it seems that Americans want European-style socialism with the election of BHO and the Dem-controlled Congress.
And while Republicans have proved that they are as inclined to spend as much as Democrats, I'm still hopeful that with Republican control of the House, the recent quest towards the failed European socialist experiment will slow a bit.
I somewhat agree, but would note that the UK is different since 1. They are not on the Euro, 2. Usually take a conservative approach to things that run against the rest of Europe (look at hte recent election) and 3. Largely reject further European integration.
It is more young kids having an excuse to riot.
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
Dec 10, 2010 3:03pm
Con_Alma;594992 wrote:Anytime you triple the cost of something there's bound to be a large negative reaction reaction, entitlement attitude or not.
Haha, very true.

believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 10, 2010 5:50pm
While I agree that GB tends to be more conservative than the rest of socialist Europe and does indeed follow a more independent mindset, these students nonetheless are rioting because the state-funded tuition candy has been taken away.ptown_trojans_1;595058 wrote:I somewhat agree, but would note that the UK is different since 1. They are not on the Euro, 2. Usually take a conservative approach to things that run against the rest of Europe (look at hte recent election) and 3. Largely reject further European integration.
It is more young kids having an excuse to riot.