Carl Crawford signs 7-year, $142 million deal with Boston Red Sox

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Leonardo
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Dec 8, 2010 11:59pm
The Red Sox nab Crawford, just days after trading for slugger Adrian Gonzalez.
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Dec 9, 2010 12:03am
Geez. The rich just get richer in the MLB. Just what will make the MLB more appealing!
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Dec 9, 2010 12:12am
Wow, I thought he was NY bound. I hate the Sox, but if it keeps him out of the Bronx Im all for it!!!
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Dec 9, 2010 12:13am
Lol Crawford needs a better agent, bc Crawford>Werth.

But id take less money to go play for a contender i suppose. Sucks to see my favorite player go to the god damn sox though
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Dec 9, 2010 12:18am
Hb31187;593533 wrote:Lol Crawford needs a better agent, bc Crawford>Werth.

But id take less money to go play for a contender i suppose. Sucks to see my favorite player go to the god damn sox though

He got like 2 million more a year...?
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Dec 9, 2010 12:20am
Laley23;593537 wrote:He got like 2 million more a year...?

I thoguht Werth got the same amount of years, my bad

What was Werths?
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Dec 9, 2010 12:24am
Pirates got Mike Diaz

look out
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Non
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Dec 9, 2010 12:25am
or Matt Diaz, I guess

they had a Mike Diaz in the 80s
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Dec 9, 2010 12:26am
Hb31187;593539 wrote:I thoguht Werth got the same amount of years, my bad

What was Werths?

7 years but only 126. Crawford is 7 years at 142.
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Dec 9, 2010 12:28am
Laley23;593545 wrote:7 years but only 126. Crawford is 7 years at 142.

Makes sense, kinda sucks that hes goin to Boston. He hits it out in the deep center field in Boston though and thats triples all day for him
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Dec 9, 2010 7:17am
like_that;593524 wrote:Geez. The rich just get richer in the MLB. Just what will make the MLB more appealing!

I guess rich=team who did not make playoffs last season.
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Dec 9, 2010 8:04am
I think we all knew it would be the BoSox or the Yanks. He signed w/ the lesser of the two evils, imo.
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Dec 9, 2010 9:44am
Yanks have to get Lee now. Saw on Twitter that the Yankees are now talking 7 years with Lee. I just don't see anyone coming close to what the Yankees offer him, and they need him more than ever if Pettite decides to retire.
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Dec 9, 2010 10:50am
jordo212000;593649 wrote:I guess rich=team who did not make playoffs last season.

So, did you not think the Yankees were "rich" when they didn't make the playoffs a few years ago?
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Dec 9, 2010 12:10pm
Sox had to make moves this offseason. Glad to see Crawford and Gonzales coming to Fenway; need to shore up the catcher position, and hope that sweaty mclackey actually pulls his weight this year (which is asking a lot). Hopefully Papelbon doesn't blow again this year either.
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Dec 9, 2010 12:34pm
like_that;593845 wrote:So, did you not think the Yankees were "rich" when they didn't make the playoffs a few years ago?

I'm saying that just spending more money than everybody else is not a guarantee that you will make the playoffs (see Red Sox, Cubs, Mets). If you spend your money wisely and develop from within your farm system, you can succeed. I wouldn't call the Giants, Reds, Rangers, or Rays "rich" yet all of them made the postseason.

I always get a chuckle when people scream about baseball's inequalities, yet accept the NBA's. Baseball has had far more parity recently than the NBA but nobody wants to acknowledge that. People rarely get up in arms when a guy from a middling market leaves for New York in the NBA (Amare Stoudemire). It's just the way of life, if you are successful and people want you, you go to big markets and make big money. Happens in the private sector all the time. Who wants to play/live in Milwaukee?
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Dec 9, 2010 1:01pm
jordo212000;593969 wrote:I'm saying that just spending more money than everybody else is not a guarantee that you will make the playoffs (see Red Sox, Cubs, Mets). If you spend your money wisely and develop from within your farm system, you can succeed. I wouldn't call the Giants, Reds, Rangers, or Rays "rich" yet all of them made the postseason.

I always get a chuckle when people scream about baseball's inequalities, yet accept the NBA's. Baseball has had far more parity recently than the NBA but nobody wants to acknowledge that. People rarely get up in arms when a guy from a middling market leaves for New York in the NBA (Amare Stoudemire). It's just the way of life, if you are successful and people want you, you go to big markets and make big money. Happens in the private sector all the time. Who wants to play/live in Milwaukee?

Its much easier to win in the NBA with a star or two who can dominate.

The Giants, Reds, Rays, and Rangers made the postseason sure...but they arent annual contenders.

Not to mention, the giants have and spend money. They are at like 100 Million pay-roll (Probably closer to 115 next season).

Nats, Reds, and Rangers are all low payroll teams and guess what...none of them will make the postseason next year. Rangers can if they go and make the huge signing of Cliff Lee.

Its not about the fact they cant win, because they can. Its the fact that other than the Twins, no mid-market team has been able to succeed for more than a year or two tops.


In the NBA, the amount of title winners is smaller, but the other teams are at least competing year in year out. If they arent, at least it isnt because the large market team just buys the player. At least its because they have poor ownership (Knicks), player leaves (LeBron, Melo), etc. It isnt about the money like it is in MLB.
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Dec 9, 2010 6:40pm
He became the 1st player to be awarded a $100 million plus contract despite never htting more than 20 HRs in a year before.... part of me thinks the Sox overpaid by $40 or $50 mil... sure, he's a good hitter, but what makes him go is his legs... what happens if those go?
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Dec 9, 2010 8:21pm
One of my favorite non-Reds....one of THE very best athletes playing baseball.

What if any players' legs go? That's what took out Mark McGwire, Mo Vaughn and many others.
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Dec 9, 2010 9:22pm
thedynasty1998;593781 wrote:Yanks have to get Lee now. Saw on Twitter that the Yankees are now talking 7 years with Lee. I just don't see anyone coming close to what the Yankees offer him, and they need him more than ever if Pettite decides to retire.

Greenie said this morning that no matter what anyone offers Lee, the Yankees will offer $10 more. Sort of like a Price is Right effect. It is very true when it comes to trying to sign a player, ESPECIALLY in baseball.
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Dec 9, 2010 10:14pm
Laley23;594010 wrote: The Giants, Reds, Rays, and Rangers made the postseason sure...but they arent annual contenders.

Nats, Reds, and Rangers are all low payroll teams and guess what...none of them will make the postseason next year.

You are making the case for parity haha. Wouldn't it be worse if they all made it every single season?

Colorado, St. Louis, and Minnesota all were a part of last season's playoffs.

In 2008 the Brewers and Rays made it with the Rays making it to the world series.
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Dec 9, 2010 10:18pm
jordo212000;594796 wrote:You are making the case for parity haha. Wouldn't it be worse if they all made it every single season?

Colorado, St. Louis, and Minnesota all were a part of last season's playoffs.

In 2008 the Brewers and Rays made it with the Rays making it to the world series.

No, beause the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Cardinals, etc are always competitive and at the start of the year are favorites. The other teams dont have a shot.

I will say, a lot of that has to do with how ridiculous their exclusion is for teams in the playoffs. If it was 16 or 12 like NBA/NHL and NFL it would be much more tolerable. But as it stands, they need a salary cap so small teams can compete every year as opposed to every 10 years.
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Dec 9, 2010 10:24pm
No the current system is fine. Let the Yanks Sox and Angels continue snapping up every big name FA. I like that as soon as a small market player is up for a new contract he immediately leaves the team that he was brought up with because the Yanks, Sox and Angels offer him an ungodly amount of money. Then those teams suck for a few years, pack the minors full of talent, bring that talent up...and the process repeats. /End sarcasm
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Dec 9, 2010 10:27pm
Laley23;594801 wrote:No, beause the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Cardinals, etc are always competitive and at the start of the year are favorites. The other teams dont have a shot.

I will say, a lot of that has to do with how ridiculous their exclusion is for teams in the playoffs. If it was 16 or 12 like NBA/NHL and NFL it would be much more tolerable. But as it stands, they need a salary cap so small teams can compete every year as opposed to every 10 years.

Seriously. Teams are competing every year. You'd think the Yankees and Red Sox have won every single World Series since 1985. They haven't. The freaking Giants played the Rangers in the World Series.

Small to mid-major markets can compete and win. They just need to develop because they can't blow $140 mill on a free agent. Oh and you are naive if you think that owners "can't" spend big money on free agents. The majority do not because they don't want to dip into their wallet. What do you think these guys are buying teams with? Monopoly money?
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Dec 9, 2010 10:32pm
It sucks, but the nba and nhl tried to fix that problem and it didn't really work. you could actually say it's even worse in those sports.