believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 6, 2010 6:45pm
Great article by Thayer Evans of Fox Sports: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/awful-college-football-season-cant-be-saved-by-bcs-120610
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 6, 2010 6:59pm
I think that the talent was down(or maybe it is just parity)...just look at the Heisman invitees. Cam Newton had a tremendous season, but he won by default..just like Troy Smith did. I think anytime "big time" universities are down like USC, Texas, Florida and few others...college football seems a little lackluster.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 6, 2010 7:00pm
Great? How so?
I enjoyed college football as much this season as any other. Save the Cam story line, what's the issue? Boise shitting the bed? please
TCU joining the Big East? But no mention of Nebraska...
This guy doesn't like the BCS. Wants to see it fall apart. Whines about the bowl matchups as uninteresting but offers no support.
Hardly a literary masterpiece imo.
I enjoyed college football as much this season as any other. Save the Cam story line, what's the issue? Boise shitting the bed? please
TCU joining the Big East? But no mention of Nebraska...
This guy doesn't like the BCS. Wants to see it fall apart. Whines about the bowl matchups as uninteresting but offers no support.
Hardly a literary masterpiece imo.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 6, 2010 7:02pm
Pehaps but he was dead-on with this comment:ytownfootball;590452 wrote:This guy doesn't like the BCS. Wants to see it fall apart. Whines about the bowl matchups as uninteresting but offers no support.
Hardly a literary masterpiece imo.
It’s seasons like this that a playoff would bail out college football. The drama of such a system would create more story lines that would help mask the ills of the sport.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 6, 2010 7:08pm
Did the play-offs and world series mask the usage of steroids during that era?
That's just more whining, and quite lame.
That's just more whining, and quite lame.
Cat Food Flambe'
Posts: 1,230
Dec 6, 2010 7:39pm
Playoffs will solve NOTHING.
There will just as much screaming and wailing about who gets in and who gets left out as there will about the lack of a playoff.
There will just as much screaming and wailing about who gets in and who gets left out as there will about the lack of a playoff.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 6, 2010 8:45pm
Cat Food Flambe';590502 wrote:Playoffs will solve NOTHING.
There will just as much screaming and wailing about who gets in and who gets left out as there will about the lack of a playoff.
Agreed. Additionally, the high school talk on this (and other) boards shows that people seem to want to talk about the subjective as much or more than the objective. In high school, you have state playoffs. What is a substantial amount of the talk about? National polls. If a college playoff were started, much of the talk would revolve around year vs. year champions. A strong argument against a playoff, actually.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 6, 2010 8:49pm
Thayer? Probably a bit of a thissy. 
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Dec 6, 2010 10:42pm
This is true, hell look at 65 teams now 68 I believe, in college basketball and there is still bitching about who is left out the basketball tourny so it will be worse in football. If they did 8 teams, the next 8 in the rankings would bitch. If they did 16 the rest of the top 25 would bitch!Cat Food Flambe';590502 wrote:Playoffs will solve NOTHING.
There will just as much screaming and wailing about who gets in and who gets left out as there will about the lack of a playoff.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 6, 2010 11:27pm
Bail college football out of what? Ills? Really? College football isn't hurting...not one bit.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 7, 2010 12:07am
queencitybuckeye;590595 wrote:If a college playoff were started, much of the talk would revolve around year vs. year champions. A strong argument against a playoff, actually.
You consider that a strong argument against a playoff?
This was a very down year for CFB. There is no doubt about that. Mediocrity across the board.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Dec 7, 2010 12:10am
The other thing is, since Auburn and Oregon DID win out, everyone knew they were going to? And that is why the season sucked?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 7, 2010 12:44pm
Mulva;590937 wrote:You consider that a strong argument against a playoff?
Yes.
This was a very down year for CFB. There is no doubt about that. Mediocrity across the board.
So lining up all of this mediocrity into a bracket would somehow salvage something?
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Dec 7, 2010 1:29pm
I had another good season against the spread which is really all that matters.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 7, 2010 1:33pm
Fab1b;590838 wrote:This is true, hell look at 65 teams now 68 I believe, in college basketball and there is still bitching about who is left out the basketball tourny so it will be worse in football. If they did 8 teams, the next 8 in the rankings would bitch. If they did 16 the rest of the top 25 would bitch!
So what? You'd rather hear #3 and 4 bitch, that actually have legit bitches? Or #9 and 10, who should have played better to get in the top 8. Please.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Dec 7, 2010 1:40pm
WebFire;591289 wrote:So what? You'd rather hear #3 and 4 bitch, that actually have legit bitches? Or #9 and 10, who should have played better to get in the top 8. Please.
No what I was saying is that the bitching will not stop just because there is a playoff and I want a playoff that is all I was saying!
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 7, 2010 2:18pm
ytownfootball;590452 wrote:Great? How so?
I enjoyed college football as much this season as any other. Save the Cam story line, what's the issue? Boise shitting the bed? please
TCU joining the Big East? But no mention of Nebraska...
This guy doesn't like the BCS. Wants to see it fall apart. Whines about the bowl matchups as uninteresting but offers no support.
Hardly a literary masterpiece imo.
Agree with this entire post
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 7, 2010 4:31pm
Fab1b;591299 wrote:No what I was saying is that the bitching will not stop just because there is a playoff and I want a playoff that is all I was saying!
Yeah there is no way around somebody bitching I guess. But an 8 team playoff would still be better than the current and previous system.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 7, 2010 5:19pm
At this point, I would be ok with the "and 1" game. Nothing wrong with the winner of Whisky/TCU playing the winner of Auburn/Oregon
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 7, 2010 5:37pm
queencitybuckeye;591238 wrote:Yes.
So lining up all of this mediocrity into a bracket would somehow salvage something?
I will disagree with you on the first point. I don't see how what people are discussing is a moving argument either for or against a playoff. It's completely irrelevant.
And no, I don't think what has been a down season would be salvaged, but I do think it would be at least moderately more entertaining with a playoff.
College basketball was very mediocre last season too. It was still more entertaining to see Butler make a run to the finals than it would have been to have Butler paired up with Illinois in the Toyota Who Gives a Fuck bowl while Duke was simply matched up with Kansas in the national championship game without either team having to win their way there.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 8, 2010 8:39am
I think we'd all be surprised, if we could go back 20 years and implement a playoff, at who the actual National Champs would be.
Thunder70
Posts: 748
Dec 8, 2010 10:39am
All I want is a +1 and for a team to have a winning record in order be bowl eligible...
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 8, 2010 11:23am
Thunder70;592346 wrote:All I want is a +1 and for a team to have a winning record in order be bowl eligible...
The way to accomplish the latter is to not watch games that involve .500 teams, and to encourage everyone you know to do the same.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 8, 2010 12:40pm
lol @ people using "People will still complain about who is #8 or #9" as a reason to not have a playoff.
I love having this debate, but when people post garbage like that, it makes my head want to explode
I love having this debate, but when people post garbage like that, it makes my head want to explode