se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 5, 2010 5:49pm
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Dec 5, 2010 5:50pm
Glad to see someone go to the Nats.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Dec 5, 2010 5:56pm
is he really that good I have not watched a whole lot of baseball the last 2 years but I thought he was just kind of a slightly above average player
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justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Dec 5, 2010 6:13pm
He's good, but not THAT good. That is a ridiculous contract, IMO. Especially for a team like the Nats.gport_tennis;588778 wrote:is he really that good I have not watched a whole lot of baseball the last 2 years but I thought he was just kind of a slightly above average player
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karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 5, 2010 6:15pm
Scott Boras is very good at what he does.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Dec 5, 2010 6:16pm
karen lotz;588790 wrote:Scott Boras is very good at what he does.
Yeah, no doubt.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 5, 2010 6:26pm
Werth is a very good player....but he doesn't seem like a leader...or the star player
He seems like a 5 yr $60 million dollar player
He seems like a 5 yr $60 million dollar player
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 5, 2010 6:30pm
Man the Nats really threw some serious $$ at him.
After looking at some of the posts from the Adrian Gonzalez thread, I was under the impression the Yankees and Red Sox were the only ones who could throw lots of money at free agents? hmmmm
After looking at some of the posts from the Adrian Gonzalez thread, I was under the impression the Yankees and Red Sox were the only ones who could throw lots of money at free agents? hmmmm
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Dec 5, 2010 6:31pm
Thats alot of cash for Jayson Werth......
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 5, 2010 6:34pm
Ironman92;588804 wrote:Werth is a very good player....but he doesn't seem like a leader...or the star player
Sports Illustrated had a good article on Werth this summer. Talked about how he didn't like all the attention he gets and would rather just play baseball. I'll try to find it.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 5, 2010 6:36pm
jordo212000;588812 wrote:Man the Nats really threw some serious $$ at him.
After looking at some of the posts from the Adrian Gonzalez thread, I was under the impression the Yankees and Red Sox were the only ones who could throw lots of money at free agents? hmmmm
Arent the Nationals considered a large market team? I pretty sure they are not small market regardless.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 5, 2010 6:36pm
Article is titled "Get Out of My Hair"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1173389/index.htm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1173389/index.htm
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 5, 2010 6:41pm
Laley23;588823 wrote:Arent the Nationals considered a large market team? I pretty sure they are not small market regardless.
Washington was ranked #22 in payroll last season (behind the Royals and Reds)
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 5, 2010 6:51pm
Yeah, they may not be a small market team, but until recently they haven't spent too much money. That has changed with Strasburg, Harper, and now Werth.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 5, 2010 6:58pm
http://twitter.com/#!/jaysonst/status/11566283870961664
Does this put Werth deal in perspective? #Nationals will pay him more than all free agents franchise has signed in last 20 years ($122.1M)!
Scarlet_Fever
Posts: 736
Dec 5, 2010 7:03pm
He's not Werth it.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 5, 2010 7:18pm
Scott Boras is a God among men. He has been pulling the "mystery team" routine for over 20 years now and teams still fall for it when negotiating with him.
Werth has been playing in a band box surrounded by thumpers for a few years now, and I suspect that this will end up going down as one of the worst contracts in the history of major league baseball.
Buster Olney just said one GM said to him he has not been this stunned since someone gave Kevin Brown $105 million.
This kind of contract makes Shin-Soo Choo a $100 million dollar player if you compare his age and numbers to Werth. That is how outrageous it is.
Werth has been playing in a band box surrounded by thumpers for a few years now, and I suspect that this will end up going down as one of the worst contracts in the history of major league baseball.
Buster Olney just said one GM said to him he has not been this stunned since someone gave Kevin Brown $105 million.
This kind of contract makes Shin-Soo Choo a $100 million dollar player if you compare his age and numbers to Werth. That is how outrageous it is.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 5, 2010 7:31pm
He's never batted .300 or driven in 100 runs. They just paid $18 million a year to a guy who has at least a 50/50 shot of never making another all-star game.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 5, 2010 7:57pm
Mulva;588909 wrote:He's never batted .300 or driven in 100 runs. They just paid $18 million a year to a guy who has at least a 50/50 shot of never making another all-star game.
It's not even the money so much as the years. He is going to be 32 in May, and just landed a 7 year deal. We have seen guys really fall off in their mid-late 30's now that PED's have been outlawed, and the Nationals just disregarded all of that to give a bloated contract bigger than the one Matt Holiday signed last year to a guy who is at best a role player on a good team.
Jason Bay signed for half of that last off season and he was a much better player heading into free agency than Werth is.
Teams thought that would be the template contract for Werth, but Boras managed to end up using the Holiday deal as he said he would ahead of time. Why teams are willing to be ripped off by him is just beyond me.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Dec 6, 2010 1:04am
holy hell...that's a lot of cash on an above-average role player
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Blanket
Posts: 369
Dec 6, 2010 7:33am
Already is talk that Crawford could get 10 years for 190 million.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Dec 6, 2010 7:37am
This is a horrible deal for the Nats.
If they were going to spend that much money, they should have divided it up among four or five guys and gone after some rotation and bullpen help
If they were going to spend that much money, they should have divided it up among four or five guys and gone after some rotation and bullpen help
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Blanket
Posts: 369
Dec 6, 2010 7:44am
Horrible doesnt even begin to cover it.
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norwalk
Posts: 158
Dec 6, 2010 10:44am
Unfortunately it's almost like the Nats wanted to make a big signing in the FA market. They knew they weren't going to get a Tier 1 FA so they gave the best Tier II FA a contract like the big ones.
Contracts like this will kill Cincy with Votto, Bruce, etc.
Contracts like this will kill Cincy with Votto, Bruce, etc.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Dec 6, 2010 2:01pm
In 156 games Werth was responsible for 174 runs (runs + RBIs - HR). By comparison Jonny Gomes, in 98 games was responsible for 143. Plus, Gomes did it in 314 plate appearances vs. Werth's 652. Gomes is 30 and will make $1.75 mm. I'll take Jonny every time.