Joe Schad points out something thats pretty interesting

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2quik4u
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Nov 22, 2010 8:56pm
Opposing win pct: Auburn (.580), TCU (.492), Boise (.463), Oregon (.411)

Bowl-eligible opponents in 2010: Auburn 6, TCU 6, Boise 4, Oregon 1
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Nov 22, 2010 9:04pm
Notre Dame has played 9 bowl eligible teams, with Western Michigan 1 win away from making it 10. This doesn't include USC who would be bowling at 7-4 if not for sanctions. 11 out of 12 opponents could be bowl eligible, with only Purdue missing out.
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like_that
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Nov 22, 2010 9:15pm
Oh, so ND is contending for a national title too??
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Nov 22, 2010 9:16pm
Notre Dame has played 9 bowl eligible teams, with Western Michigan 1 win away from making it 10. This doesn't include USC who would be bowling at 7-4 if not for sanctions. 11 out of 12 opponents could be bowl eligible, with only Purdue missing out.
Yeah?
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Nov 22, 2010 9:16pm
karen lotz;571687 wrote:Notre Dame has played 9 bowl eligible teams, with Western Michigan 1 win away from making it 10. This doesn't include USC who would be bowling at 7-4 if not for sanctions. 11 out of 12 opponents could be bowl eligible, with only Purdue missing out.

That is insane.
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Nov 22, 2010 9:23pm
like_that;571705 wrote:Oh, so ND is contending for a national title too??

Not sure I said that.
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centralbucksfan
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Nov 22, 2010 9:40pm
WTF does ND have to do with the teams that were listed? Teams that are in the title hunt. Was it that hard to understand?
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Nov 22, 2010 9:42pm
centralbucksfan;571760 wrote:WTF does ND have to do with the teams that were listed? Teams that are in the title hunt. Was it that hard to understand?
Yes I understand those 4 teams are in the title hunt. Thank you.
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Nov 22, 2010 9:48pm
2quik4u;571677 wrote:Opposing win pct: Auburn (.580), TCU (.492), Boise (.463), Oregon (.411)

Bowl-eligible opponents in 2010: Auburn 6, TCU 6, Boise 4, Oregon 1

Interesting. I'd like to break those numbers down and see what the best wins are.
karen lotz;571687 wrote:Notre Dame has played 9 bowl eligible teams, with Western Michigan 1 win away from making it 10. This doesn't include USC who would be bowling at 7-4 if not for sanctions. 11 out of 12 opponents could be bowl eligible, with only Purdue missing out.

Also interesting.
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Nov 22, 2010 10:02pm
ccrunner609;571790 wrote:but they lost to 1/2 of them..........
Really........................?
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Prescott
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Nov 22, 2010 10:04pm
Opposing win pct: Auburn (.580), TCU (.492), Boise (.463), Oregon (.411)

Bowl-eligible opponents in 2010: Auburn 6, TCU 6, Boise 4, Oregon 1
This proves nothing and means less.
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Nov 22, 2010 10:15pm
One word:

Playoffs
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karen lotz
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Nov 22, 2010 10:18pm
I wasn't aware Jim Mora was an OC member.
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Nov 22, 2010 11:24pm
Prescott;571798 wrote:This proves nothing and means less.

explain
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Nov 22, 2010 11:47pm
karen lotz;571687 wrote:Notre Dame has played 9 bowl eligible teams, with Western Michigan 1 win away from making it 10. This doesn't include USC who would be bowling at 7-4 if not for sanctions. 11 out of 12 opponents could be bowl eligible, with only Purdue missing out.

I think that this is important to consider. Often we think about someone's strength of schedule based on the marquee wins the have or the other top teams they played. But a schedule isn't just made up of the two or three top 25 teams you play in a year, it's made up of 12 different teams. We need to look at all of those teams.

And it's important to note that Oregon would have two bowl eligible teams if USC wasn't sanctioned at the moment.

Also, Pittsburgh will have somehow played 7 bowl eligible teams by season's end. How is that possible?
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centralbucksfan
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Nov 23, 2010 8:26am
There are 35 freaking bowl games. That means, 70 teams are considered Bowl eligible. I believe I read where there are 119 teams in Div 1A. Meaning 59% of teams make a bowl game. The above stat, as someone stated, means nothing.
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Nov 23, 2010 8:31am
The whole winning percentage thing doesn't mean too much as you could play a bunch of crappy teams that also play a lot of REALLY crappy teams. So therefore your opponents win percentage might be highers. It's not just about the numbers but also about the QUALITY of the teams you play.
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Nov 23, 2010 8:32am
centralbucksfan;572215 wrote:There are 35 freaking bowl games. That means, 70 teams are considered Bowl eligible. I believe I read where there are 119 teams in Div 1A. Meaning 59% of teams make a bowl game. The above stat, as someone stated, means nothing.

If 59% of teams make bowl games, don't you think the majority of teams on someone's schedule should be bowl eligible? If that stat is true, it sounds like Oregon hasn't played very many good teams. Which is the argument most (including me) have against TCU and Boise playing in the title game.
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Nov 23, 2010 8:52am
So I did look up Oregon's schedule. They've played the following teams who have the following records.

New Mexico 1-10
Tennessee 5-6
Portland State 2-9
Arizona State 4-6
Stanford 10-1
Washington State 2-9
UCLA 4-6
USC 7-4
Washington 4-6
California 5-6

Stanford is a good win, as well as USC, but the rest are kind of pathetic.
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centralbucksfan
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Nov 23, 2010 11:18am
FatHobbit;572221 wrote:If 59% of teams make bowl games, don't you think the majority of teams on someone's schedule should be bowl eligible? If that stat is true, it sounds like Oregon hasn't played very many good teams. Which is the argument most (including me) have against TCU and Boise playing in the title game.

Yes, true. But just because one teams plays all these "bowl" teams doesn't mean those teams are anything great either. I just don't think you can determine this or that based on bowl teams on your schedule when a high majority are going to these watered down bowl games. I mean, 6 wins gets you a bowl game. Its really kind of pathetic now with all these bowls.
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Nov 23, 2010 12:05pm
Fly4Fun;572219 wrote:The whole winning percentage thing doesn't mean too much as you could play a bunch of crappy teams that also play a lot of REALLY crappy teams. So therefore your opponents win percentage might be highers. It's not just about the numbers but also about the QUALITY of the teams you play.

A lot of the bowl eligible teams that BCS teams play get 4 of their wins versus very weak opponents by playing cupcakes out of conference. I've not checked but I would guess that most of Boise State's and TCU's opponents played tougher out of conference than Auburn's and Oregon's opponents, because they probably played "up" more, playing more BCS opponents out of conference.
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Nov 23, 2010 12:08pm
It's not that difficult to play "up" OOC games when you're Boise/TCU, in fact it's nearly a requirement if you plan on being considered seriously for big money post season bowl games.
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Nov 23, 2010 12:14pm
FatHobbit;572234 wrote:So I did look up Oregon's schedule. They've played the following teams who have the following records.

New Mexico 1-10
Tennessee 5-6
Portland State 2-9
Arizona State 4-6
Stanford 10-1
Washington State 2-9
UCLA 4-6
USC 7-4
Washington 4-6
California 5-6

Stanford is a good win, as well as USC, but the rest are kind of pathetic.
The Pac 10 is pathetic.
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queencitybuckeye
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Nov 23, 2010 12:17pm
Has anyone fact-checked the numbers he threw out? Schad is notorious for making shit up. A prime example of the so-called new "journalism".
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centralbucksfan
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Nov 23, 2010 1:15pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;572404 wrote:The Pac 10 is pathetic.

And many were claiming it to be the best early in the season. Thats why you play an entire season before judging who is the best or not.