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Feb 20, 2011 2:23 PM
rock_knutne;684374 wrote:We can agree to disagree, Max Talbot will be resigned by the Pens, he's too valuable.

As a 4th line center he can and will be replaced by Letestu or Jeffrey.

Game against Chicago at 3.
Feb 20, 2011 2:23pm
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Feb 20, 2011 5:18 PM
The_Crosby_Show;684645 wrote:As a 4th line center he can and will be replaced by Letestu or Jeffrey.

Game against Chicago at 3.

Yeah, they should get rid of Talbot, especially after setting up that shorthanded goal to Matt Cooke.:rolleyes:

BTW, Talbot is NOT a 4th line center! He's a utility guy that plays where ever he's needed. If given the chance, Talbot could be an easy 20 goal scorer.
Feb 20, 2011 5:18pm
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rock_knutne

Feb 20, 2011 5:21 PM
Nice comeback by the Pens after weathering the early Chicago storm. Game tied 1-1.
Feb 20, 2011 5:21pm
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rock_knutne

Feb 20, 2011 6:06 PM
Pens tie it late and we're heading to OT.
Feb 20, 2011 6:06pm
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Feb 20, 2011 6:15 PM
No score in OT, heading to a shoot out.

Fleury made an unreal save late in that OT period and Kennedy missed a wide open net o win it. Also, Staal took a puck to the facial area and went straight to the locker room, let's hope it's nothing serious.
Feb 20, 2011 6:15pm
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Feb 20, 2011 6:20 PM
Pens lose the shoot out 1-0. Tough loss for Pittsburgh but that's the way they will have to play until Sid and the other injured players get back.

The Craps come to town tomorrow night.
Feb 20, 2011 6:20pm
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Feb 20, 2011 6:27 PM
rock_knutne;684945 wrote:Yeah, they should get rid of Talbot, especially after setting up that shorthanded goal to Matt Cooke.:rolleyes:

BTW, Talbot is NOT a 4th line center! He's a utility guy that plays where ever he's needed. If given the chance, Talbot could be an easy 20 goal scorer.

Please tell me you're joking.

He's only had 6 goals all year.
Feb 20, 2011 6:27pm
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Feb 20, 2011 6:31 PM
Dude, Talbot is a 4th line center. He was magic one season and you've had a hard on for him.

Yes, he had a nice pass but that was the first time in a long ass time he made a good offensive play.

Just to let you know again, Letestu and Jeffrey>Talbot.
Feb 20, 2011 6:31pm
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Feb 20, 2011 6:32 PM
2 points would have been nice but with this current lineup, I'll take the point.

Max will have to take a pay cut or freeze to stay.

$1,050,000 is too much for someone with 6 goals, 13 points and a +/- of -4.
Feb 20, 2011 6:32pm
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Feb 20, 2011 6:35 PM
The_Crosby_Show;685079 wrote:Dude, Talbot is a 4th line center. He was magic one season and you've had a hard on for him.

Yes, he had a nice pass but that was the first time in a long ass time he made a good offensive play.

Just to let you know again, Letestu and Jeffrey>Talbot.

To go further, Talbot's salary>Letestu or Jeffrey's salary. I love the guy for what he did the Cup year in the playoffs, but he hasn't done much since.
Feb 20, 2011 6:35pm
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Feb 20, 2011 7:02 PM
Bylsma said Staal gave him the thumbs up after the game so lets hope he's ok. Can't lose another offensive player, especially with this busy week on the schedule. 2 back-to-back nights this week. Brutal.

Sunday @ Blackhawks
Monday vs. Crapitals
Wednesday vs Sharks
Friday @ Hurricanes
Saturday @ Maple Leafs
Feb 20, 2011 7:02pm
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Feb 20, 2011 7:06 PM
GoPens;685088 wrote:To go further, Talbot's salary>Letestu or Jeffrey's salary. I love the guy for what he did the Cup year in the playoffs, but he hasn't done much since.

Agreed.

He hasn't stepped his game up at all. The WBS guys have been out playing him.
Feb 20, 2011 7:06pm
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Feb 20, 2011 9:01 PM
rock_knutne;684444 wrote:I was just looking at the standings in the East and I have to laugh at some of the so called experts who have been saying the Pens are in a free fall. Yeah, times have been tough without Sid, Geno and the multitude of injuries but Pittsburgh is still only 5 points behind Philly for the conference lead and have more points than Tampa Bay and Boston, who occupy the second and third spots only because they lead their divisions (shitty rule IMO). 6-4 in their last 10 games isn't too bad considering what has happened to the team in the last month or so. If Crosby can get back in to the lineup and Shero pulls off another trade deadline deal, this team is poised for another Cup run behind a very good defense and goalie.

Pens will make the playoffs, no doubt, may even get home ice the first round. The east is such a joke this year, that even with the Pens banged up, they can still make a Cup run come playoff time.
Feb 20, 2011 9:01pm
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Feb 20, 2011 10:20 PM
A cup run is stretching it. If MAF can play throughout the playoffs like he played today, they could make a special run.
Feb 20, 2011 10:20pm
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Feb 21, 2011 5:06 AM
Again, we can agree to disagree on Talbot. He's NOT a 4th line center, he's a utility guy who plays where ever he's needed. You need to wake up and smell the coffee Crosby Show because you're DEAD wrong on this one! Successful teams need role players and Talbot is one of the best in the league, there's absolutely no way that he will be let go after this season.
Feb 21, 2011 5:06am
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Feb 21, 2011 5:07 AM
ptown_trojans_1;685286 wrote:Pens will make the playoffs, no doubt, may even get home ice the first round. The east is such a joke this year, that even with the Pens banged up, they can still make a Cup run come playoff time.

Yeah, what ever you say........the East is a joke. :rolleyes:
Feb 21, 2011 5:07am
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Feb 21, 2011 5:11 AM
The_Crosby_Show;685404 wrote:A cup run is stretching it. If MAF can play throughout the playoffs like he played today, they could make a special run.

A Cup run is not stretching it at all. IF.......Crosby comes back along with the rest of their injured players they can definitely make some noise in the playoffs. Let's not forget that the Pens are one of the best defensive teams in the league.
Feb 21, 2011 5:11am
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Feb 21, 2011 8:02 AM
rock_knutne;685602 wrote:Yeah, what ever you say........the East is a joke. :rolleyes:

Compared to the West, you bet it is.
Best division in hockey is the Pacific, best PP in the league are all in the West, best team is in the West, etc.

Pens have the easier road than say, the Wings or the Canucks.
Feb 21, 2011 8:02am
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Feb 21, 2011 8:30 AM
^^^^I can't see how anyone can say one conference is tougher than the other, both are very comparable in relation to points. Also, one could argue the Atlantic is the toughest, look at the Pens........fourth place in the conference, second in the division, yet more points than the other two division leaders in the East and more points than one of the division leaders out West. It's impossible to say one is tougher than the other let alone call the East a joke.
Feb 21, 2011 8:30am
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Feb 21, 2011 11:16 AM
rock_knutne;685601 wrote:Again, we can agree to disagree on Talbot. He's NOT a 4th line center, he's a utility guy who plays where ever he's needed. You need to wake up and smell the coffee Crosby Show because you're DEAD wrong on this one! Successful teams need role players and Talbot is one of the best in the league, there's absolutely no way that he will be let go after this season.

Agreed that teams need role players--just not ones that cost $1,000,000. Letestu and Jeffrey's salaries combined are a hair less than Talbot's. Hell, he's getting paid $166,666.66 per goal this year.

In the salary cap era, you can't have role players that cost a million a year. Unless Max takes a cut, he probably will not be a Pen next year.
Feb 21, 2011 11:16am
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Feb 21, 2011 11:29 AM
rock_knutne;685619 wrote:^^^^I can't see how anyone can say one conference is tougher than the other, both are very comparable in relation to points. Also, one could argue the Atlantic is the toughest, look at the Pens........fourth place in the conference, second in the division, yet more points than the other two division leaders in the East and more points than one of the division leaders out West. It's impossible to say one is tougher than the other let alone call the East a joke.

Right, so Carolina the 8 seed in the East, would be tied for 12th in the West.
Also, the Pacific has the Ducks in last place with 68 points, that is 17 points more than the last place Islanders in the Atlantic. In the East the whole division would be 7 seed and above. The Atlantic has the Devils and the Islanders, two awful, awful teams this year. Come on.
Hell, even St. Louis, last in the Central would be a 9 seed, point wise in the East.

Edmonton pulls the West down, but the East has awful, awful teams like the Ottawa, Islanders, and Devils.
There is also a reason why 11 out of the 15 teams in the West have a winning record against the East.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20102011&type=XVE

No doubt the Pens are a good team, just they overall, have an easier road to the Cup than the Wings or Canucks or even the Coyotes.
I also expect the Pens to head to at least the 2nd round, maybe in the ECF.
Feb 21, 2011 11:29am
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Feb 21, 2011 1:14 PM
ptown_trojans_1;685749 wrote:Right, so Carolina the 8 seed in the East, would be tied for 12th in the West.
Also, the Pacific has the Ducks in last place with 68 points, that is 17 points more than the last place Islanders in the Atlantic. In the East the whole division would be 7 seed and above. The Atlantic has the Devils and the Islanders, two awful, awful teams this year. Come on.
Hell, even St. Louis, last in the Central would be a 9 seed, point wise in the East.

Edmonton pulls the West down, but the East has awful, awful teams like the Ottawa, Islanders, and Devils.
There is also a reason why 11 out of the 15 teams in the West have a winning record against the East.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20102011&type=XVE

No doubt the Pens are a good team, just they overall, have an easier road to the Cup than the Wings or Canucks or even the Coyotes.
I also expect the Pens to head to at least the 2nd round, maybe in the ECF.

All I'm saying is if you look at the leaders in both conferences, it's very comparable. The 7th and 8th place teams in the East aren't that far off from the 7th and 8th place teams in the West. There might be a couple more teams fighting for that 8th playoff spot in the West and that's it. BTW, no road is easy to the Stanley Cup finals.
Feb 21, 2011 1:14pm
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Feb 21, 2011 1:15 PM
GoPens;685733 wrote:Agreed that teams need role players--just not ones that cost $1,000,000. Letestu and Jeffrey's salaries combined are a hair less than Talbot's. Hell, he's getting paid $166,666.66 per goal this year.

In the salary cap era, you can't have role players that cost a million a year. Unless Max takes a cut, he probably will not be a Pen next year.
We will see what happens at years end but IMO Talbot's not going anywhere.
Feb 21, 2011 1:15pm
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Feb 21, 2011 1:57 PM
rock_knutne;685601 wrote:Again, we can agree to disagree on Talbot. He's NOT a 4th line center, he's a utility guy who plays where ever he's needed. You need to wake up and smell the coffee Crosby Show because you're DEAD wrong on this one! Successful teams need role players and Talbot is one of the best in the league, there's absolutely no way that he will be let go after this season.

He's a good role player but, he's making over a million a year. You do not play role players 1mil +.

He will be let go b/c someone will give him 1.5mil-2mil a season like I said before.
Feb 21, 2011 1:57pm
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Feb 21, 2011 1:58 PM
ptown_trojans_1;685749 wrote:Right, so Carolina the 8 seed in the East, would be tied for 12th in the West.
Also, the Pacific has the Ducks in last place with 68 points, that is 17 points more than the last place Islanders in the Atlantic. In the East the whole division would be 7 seed and above. The Atlantic has the Devils and the Islanders, two awful, awful teams this year. Come on.
Hell, even St. Louis, last in the Central would be a 9 seed, point wise in the East.

Edmonton pulls the West down, but the East has awful, awful teams like the Ottawa, Islanders, and Devils.
There is also a reason why 11 out of the 15 teams in the West have a winning record against the East.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20102011&type=XVE

No doubt the Pens are a good team, just they overall, have an easier road to the Cup than the Wings or Canucks or even the Coyotes.
I also expect the Pens to head to at least the 2nd round, maybe in the ECF.

The Devils have been on fire as of late (no pun intended). If they had a better coach at the beginning of the year, they be higher in the standings right now.
Feb 21, 2011 1:58pm