Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Nov 18, 2010 2:05pm
He won it with 13 wins.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 18, 2010 2:11pm
I thought I heard at the end of the year he was 1st or 2nd in 10 out of the 12 major pitching categories, or something like that.
Honestly, Im glad they are moving away from wins as the major player. It is the second most overrated stat in todays baseball to BA. Felix was the best pitcher this season, no question.
Honestly, Im glad they are moving away from wins as the major player. It is the second most overrated stat in todays baseball to BA. Felix was the best pitcher this season, no question.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 18, 2010 2:54pm
^^
Yeah the average fan hates wins...but they get all geeked up over ERA, SO, IP etc, etc. Joke Award.
Yeah the average fan hates wins...but they get all geeked up over ERA, SO, IP etc, etc. Joke Award.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 18, 2010 2:58pm
Tiernan;564425 wrote:^^
Yeah the average fan hates wins...but they get all geeked up over ERA, SO, IP etc, etc. Joke Award.
Since when is the Cy Young Award a team award? Wins are a team component.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 18, 2010 3:37pm
Laley23;564430 wrote:Since when is the Cy Young Award a team award? Wins are a team component.
Indeed. You can lose while giving up 0 earned runs. You can win giving up 10 earned runs (or more). Wins are definitely overrated as far as the Cy Young award goes.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 18, 2010 3:39pm
All you baseball "purists" finally have your day in the sun. For the rest of us normal folk who actually have lives, don't live with our Moms and procreate with memebers of the opposite sex...I'll say it again...Joke Award.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 18, 2010 3:42pm
Tiernan;564495 wrote:All you baseball "purists" finally have your day in the sun. For the rest of us normal folk who actually have lives, don't live with our Moms and procreate with memebers of the opposite sex...I'll say it again...Joke Award.
You got us good!
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 18, 2010 4:22pm
justincredible;564500 wrote:You got us good!
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justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 18, 2010 4:29pm
I'm still trying to figure out what thinking wins are overrated for a pitcher has anything to do with my living situation and sexual preference...
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 18, 2010 4:32pm
Laley23;564380 wrote:I thought I heard at the end of the year he was 1st or 2nd in 10 out of the 12 major pitching categories, or something like that.
Honestly, Im glad they are moving away from wins as the major player. It is the second most overrated stat in todays baseball to BA. Felix was the best pitcher this season, no question.
Agreed. It reminded me of the year that Kevin Millwood had as an Indian where he only had like 9 wins and an ERA of 2 or so.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 18, 2010 4:33pm
Stats are for nerdlings...Wins are for cool people...Do you get it now?justincredible;564586 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what thinking wins are overrated for a pitcher has anything to do with my living situation and sexual preference...
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 18, 2010 4:35pm
Tiernan;564590 wrote:Stats are for nerdlings...Wins are for cool people...Do you get it now?
So all nerds are gay and live with their mommies?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 18, 2010 4:38pm
justincredible;564593 wrote:So all nerds are gay and live with their mommies?
yes
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 18, 2010 4:39pm
justincredible;564593 wrote:So all nerds are gay and live with their mommies?
Just because it is true for me, doesnt mean it is true for all. Though all my friends are nerds who love cock and also still live with their parents.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Nov 18, 2010 4:54pm
I've got some life changes to make. I'll file for divorce in the morning. Laley, wanna maybe catch dinner and a movie?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 18, 2010 4:58pm
justincredible;564627 wrote:I've got some life changes to make. I'll file for divorce in the morning. Laley, wanna maybe catch dinner and a movie?
You slut!!! What about us?
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Nov 18, 2010 5:00pm
i thought nerds go on to be insanely rich, driving ferraris and dating supermodels/trophy girlfriends...boy was i wrong
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 18, 2010 5:25pm
justincredible;564627 wrote:I've got some life changes to make. I'll file for divorce in the morning. Laley, wanna maybe catch dinner and a movie?
Only if im buying. I may be a gay, but i am still the male in my relationships.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 18, 2010 5:31pm
justincredible;564586 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what thinking wins are overrated for a pitcher has anything to do with my living situation and sexual preference...
More than you could possibly know. I always thought the reason I divorced my ex was because of her destructive habits. I now know that it was because I like stats and therefore am a big ghey and she got into drugs as a way to blunt the pain of living with something with my life habits.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Nov 18, 2010 5:52pm
justincredible;564586 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what thinking wins are overrated for a pitcher has anything to do with my living situation and sexual preference...
I'm trying to figure out why you're trying to make sense of a Tiernan post. The only thing that ever makes consistent sense in his posts are the rules violations.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 18, 2010 11:00pm
Where did Jared Weaver finish? If Hernandez wins it at 13-12 with all other numbers dominating....Wever should've been top 5.
Lester was 4th?
Was Nolan Ryan in the top 20 in 1987?
I understand why he won....but I don't like it.
Lester was 4th?
Was Nolan Ryan in the top 20 in 1987?
I understand why he won....but I don't like it.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 18, 2010 11:43pm
Ironman92;565045 wrote:Where did Jared Weaver finish? If Hernandez wins it at 13-12 with all other numbers dominating....Wever should've been top 5.
Lester was 4th?
I understand why he won....but I don't like it.
Weaver was 5th.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 19, 2010 8:24am
...and lord knows ol' Turd Ferguson is all about "maintaining" the sacred rules. We were all just having some fun here until you stuck your idiocy into the convo.ts1227;564690 wrote:I'm trying to figure out why you're trying to make sense of a Tiernan post. The only thing that ever makes consistent sense in his posts are the rules violations.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 19, 2010 9:45pm
lol....Weaver was 5th and Nolan Ryan in 1987 at 8-15 finished 5th....behind 16-16 Orel Hershiser who was 4th
I would've went Price 1st, Sabathia 2nd and Felix 3rd
If Lee stayed in Seattle, Felix would not have won cause his teammate would've had the same stats.
Honestly, I haven't delved into the numbers much....but how many times did Hernandez give up 3 or less and lose? What is the average ERA in Safeco compared to Yankee stadium or Tampa?
How do you factor in Hernandez facing his division and Sabathia having to face the offenses of Toronto, Rays and Sox and Price facing the Yankees, Red Sox and Blue Jays...all of which have big offensive parks....these are considerable factors IMO.
I would've went Price 1st, Sabathia 2nd and Felix 3rd
If Lee stayed in Seattle, Felix would not have won cause his teammate would've had the same stats.
Honestly, I haven't delved into the numbers much....but how many times did Hernandez give up 3 or less and lose? What is the average ERA in Safeco compared to Yankee stadium or Tampa?
How do you factor in Hernandez facing his division and Sabathia having to face the offenses of Toronto, Rays and Sox and Price facing the Yankees, Red Sox and Blue Jays...all of which have big offensive parks....these are considerable factors IMO.
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Nov 19, 2010 10:01pm
Ironman92;566384 wrote:lol....Weaver was 5th and Nolan Ryan in 1987 at 8-15 finished 5th....behind 16-16 Orel Hershiser who was 4th
I would've went Price 1st, Sabathia 2nd and Felix 3rd
If Lee stayed in Seattle, Felix would not have won cause his teammate would've had the same stats.
Honestly, I haven't delved into the numbers much....but how many times did Hernandez give up 3 or less and lose? What is the average ERA in Safeco compared to Yankee stadium or Tampa?
How do you factor in Hernandez facing his division and Sabathia having to face the offenses of Toronto, Rays and Sox and Price facing the Yankees, Red Sox and Blue Jays...all of which have big offensive parks....these are considerable factors IMO.
Felix was lights out vs. the East. Something like 5-1 with a sub 2.00 ERA. The best pitcher won the award, no doubt about it.