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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Nov 14, 2010 3:07am
I posted this topic several weeks ago and it needs revisited
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Gr8one
Posts: 42
Nov 14, 2010 9:55am
Because they still may not win the state title as there are teams out there that may beat them too.St. Eds better check the mirror.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Nov 14, 2010 9:59am
Glenville lost a reg season game ,but corrupt officiating errased that ....st Eds arguably plays the toughest schedule in the state ,and they have just been demolishing teams...Why should past years be so much involved ,also I might add that Ohio is one the greatest states in HS football but we are being so disrespected this year ...Colerain was in the regional aslo and St Eds wasnt even in that ... they too lost ....Ursulin should be in the top 25 as well ....
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 14, 2010 10:22am
It's pretty easy to understand why they aren't nationally ranked. St Ed's is a great team...no doubt about that. But they also crushed a bunch of teams that, while normally are top of the heap, had down years this year.
Their opponents' combined record is 46-49. Not exactly great. St Ed's went 10-0 and didn't even get one of the top 2 seeds in their region. Like I said, I think they are a good team. And they tried to schedule some really elite teams this year. It's not their fault that Mooney, Elder, Benedictine, DeSales, St. X, and St. Ignatius are all "down" this year compared to what they normally are. If all of those teams are performing like they usually do, and Ed's still rolls through the schedule...there is no doubt that they would have gotten national attention.
UrsulinE isn't ranked because they are Div V. Like it or not, small schools do not get respect.
Their opponents' combined record is 46-49. Not exactly great. St Ed's went 10-0 and didn't even get one of the top 2 seeds in their region. Like I said, I think they are a good team. And they tried to schedule some really elite teams this year. It's not their fault that Mooney, Elder, Benedictine, DeSales, St. X, and St. Ignatius are all "down" this year compared to what they normally are. If all of those teams are performing like they usually do, and Ed's still rolls through the schedule...there is no doubt that they would have gotten national attention.
UrsulinE isn't ranked because they are Div V. Like it or not, small schools do not get respect.
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Nov 14, 2010 9:03pm
Polls are a joke! Period! Look at the college rankings...its horrible. I think coaches should rank teams and thats it.
most of the media folk are either has beens or never were. They all suck!
most of the media folk are either has beens or never were. They all suck!
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 14, 2010 9:38pm
Old Rider;558575 wrote:Polls are a joke! Period! Look at the college rankings...its horrible. I think coaches should rank teams and thats it.
most of the media folk are either has beens or never were. They all suck!
Good plan. Let's let the coaches determine everything. They don't have any bias towards their team/conference and are completely neutral when ranking teams.
/sarcasm.
Spread All Day
Posts: 985
Nov 14, 2010 9:38pm
I dont know why they arent.. Beat mooney by 34... but ursuline beat them by 38.. hmm.. no respect.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 15, 2010 8:41am
This. Also have to factor in that they've been off the national radar for a few years, so they were kind of an unknown at the beginning of the season.sherm03;557662 wrote:It's pretty easy to understand why they aren't nationally ranked. St Ed's is a great team...no doubt about that. But they also crushed a bunch of teams that, while normally are top of the heap, had down years this year.
Their opponents' combined record is 46-49. Not exactly great. St Ed's went 10-0 and didn't even get one of the top 2 seeds in their region. Like I said, I think they are a good team. And they tried to schedule some really elite teams this year. It's not their fault that Mooney, Elder, Benedictine, DeSales, St. X, and St. Ignatius are all "down" this year compared to what they normally are. If all of those teams are performing like they usually do, and Ed's still rolls through the schedule...there is no doubt that they would have gotten national attention.
UrsulinE isn't ranked because they are Div V. Like it or not, small schools do not get respect.
Ursuline isn't ranked simply because they're not one of the 25 top teams in the country.
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BlueJayRay
Posts: 106
Nov 15, 2010 3:15pm
Not sure what poles you guys are looking at... Freeman has them as first in the Nation... Not ranked in the BCS though (LOL)
http://www.maxpreps.com/polls/football/xcellent25.htm
http://www.maxpreps.com/polls/football/xcellent25.htm
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 15, 2010 4:04pm
Freeman is basically the CalPreps computer model.
Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Nov 15, 2010 10:47pm
I would say Glenville, Colerain and St. Edward were the top three programs in Division 1 heading to playoffs. Which one is still in the playoffs?Gr8one;557630 wrote:Because they still may not win the state title
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 15, 2010 10:58pm
Leonardo;560172 wrote:I would say Glenville, Colerain and St. Edward were the top three programs in Division 1 heading to playoffs. Which one is still in the playoffs?
I can't believe that Hilliard Davidson is getting overlooked by so many people. They're the defending champs, and they are undefeated. I would put them ahead of Colerain any day (as a matter of fact, Hilliard would have been ranked ahead of Colerain if they were in the same region). Colerain coasted through their regular season because they didn't have to play anyone worthwhile, and it showed in the playoffs. To put them in the top three of D1 going into the playoffs is just crazy, IMO.
Go_Fast_Sports
Posts: 390
Nov 16, 2010 1:01am
Both Pick Cent and Hilliard are very good. That's going to be one hell of a game!! I'd love to see it.
skank
Posts: 6,543
Nov 16, 2010 6:46pm
Leonardo;560172 wrote:I would say Glenville, Colerain and St. Edward were the top three programs in Division 1 heading to playoffs. Which one is still in the playoffs?
The OHSAA's favorite son.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Nov 17, 2010 4:31am
Spread All Day;558674 wrote:I dont know why they arent.. Beat mooney by 34... but ursuline beat them by 38.. hmm.. no respect.
Ive seen 4 teams in the top 25 play this year and Pittsburgh Central will be soon .. Ursulin could have beaten all of those teams ..just saying.... I know we have had some really great teams in the past get slighted and Ohio is getting jobbed this year big time
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 19, 2010 11:48am
Lakewood St. Edward is currently ranked 16th in the ESPN/ Rise Fab 50 national football poll.
http://rise.espn.go.com/football/team-rankings/Index.aspx
http://rise.espn.go.com/football/team-rankings/Index.aspx
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Gr8one
Posts: 42
Nov 19, 2010 3:34pm
Leonardo;560172 wrote:I would say Glenville, Colerain and St. Edward were the top three programs in Division 1 heading to playoffs. Which one is still in the playoffs?
I would say you are way off.Whitmer had an early season loss(center was out of game,lots of bad snaps and the loss was to a 9-1 team that made the playoffs) but played 4 teams that made the playoffs and 3 are still alive in the playoffs.Just wait and see.Whitmer is fast and a virtual unknown and we love the underdog role as we keep cranking out wins.Probably 6 or 7 D1 players on the team.I say again,better look in the rearview mirror as Whitmer is coming up on you very quick.
Spread All Day
Posts: 985
Nov 21, 2010 2:53am
To who said, Ursuline isn't top 25...
Um no? have you seen them?
Um no? have you seen them?
skank
Posts: 6,543
Nov 21, 2010 10:03am
Spread All Day;569027 wrote:To who said, Ursuline isn't top 25...
Um no? have you seen them?
Yes, I have seen them early in their careers, some at Poland, some at Austintown, some at Boardman....
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Nov 21, 2010 2:30pm
Yes, I have...twice in fact. I've also watched most of the consensus Top 25 at least once. Trust me, the Irish are good...but they ain't that good.Spread All Day;569027 wrote:To who said, Ursuline isn't top 25...
Um no? have you seen them?
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Be Nice
Posts: 1,120
Nov 21, 2010 8:58pm
I wonder if it's because they recruit? The OHSAA has turned a blind eye to this so they'll get the recognition in Ohio. They are a very good team, but if they and others played by rules that sholud have been implemented a long time ago how really good would they be?
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 21, 2010 9:03pm
skank;569128 wrote:Yes, I have seen them early in their careers, some at Poland, some at Austintown, some at Boardman....
If I get older and turn this whiny and douchey...someone, anyone, please shoot me in the face!Be Nice;570123 wrote:I wonder if it's because they recruit? The OHSAA has turned a blind eye to this so they'll get the recognition in Ohio. They are a very good team, but if they and others played by rules that sholud have been implemented a long time ago how really good would they be?
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Be Nice
Posts: 1,120
Nov 21, 2010 9:06pm
^^^C'mon sherm...does the truth hurt? lol
skank
Posts: 6,543
Nov 21, 2010 9:11pm
sherm03;570134 wrote:If I get older and turn this whiny and douchey...someone, anyone, please shoot me in the face!
This one is too easy.
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Nov 22, 2010 12:11am
Polls are for women!