Archive Three Reds win Gold Gloves.

brutus161

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Nov 10, 2010 4:09pm

Arroyo wins his 1th, Phillips his 2nd, and Rolen his 8th.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101110&content_id=16050038&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

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Nate

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Nov 10, 2010 4:09pm

This is awesome!

karen lotz

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Nov 10, 2010 4:13pm

Damn, I know Rolen is solid and has been great in the past, but I'm not sure he played a better 3rd base than Ryan Zimmerman did this year. Good for the Reds though, they had a good year and deserve some recognition.

stroups

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Nov 10, 2010 4:45pm

Bruce could of also had an argument made for him too......beside that ball he missed in the playoffs lol

wes_mantooth

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Nov 10, 2010 4:52pm

I have lost all respect for the Gold Glove awards...nothing to do with the Reds, but the fact that Jeter got one with a poor fielding percentage is a joke. I remember that Ripkin jr used to get them given to him during the twilight of his career....it just seems like a joke of an award anymore.

brutus161

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Nov 10, 2010 5:03pm

wes_mantooth;552937 wrote:I have lost all respect for the Gold Glove awards...nothing to do with the Reds, but the fact that Jeter got one with a poor fielding percentage is a joke. I remember that Ripkin jr used to get them given to him during the twilight of his career....it just seems like a joke of an award anymore.

It does seem to be a popularity contest at times.

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Nov 10, 2010 5:56pm

I agree with Mantooth.

Same with NBA all-defense awards.

HitsRus

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Nov 10, 2010 8:50pm

let's see...who did the Tribe get for Gold glover Franklin Gutierrez?....ooooh....not such a good trade, Mark. Maybe it was because we needed a second baseman ever since we let Phillips go 'cause you and Wedge didn't like him. Is that 2 Gold Gloves for BP now?

wildcats20

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Nov 10, 2010 8:53pm

^^Yes.

Ironman92

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Nov 10, 2010 9:01pm

Didn't Jeter have a very good fielding %?

Ironman92

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Nov 10, 2010 9:04pm

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding/_/position/ss/league/al/order/true

I'm not saying he should've won it....but saying he had a poor fielding % is beyond ignorant......maybe hit on his range

Jeter only had 6 errors on the entire season

karen lotz

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Nov 10, 2010 9:11pm

He only had 6 errors on the season because he has the range of Babe Ruth's bust in Monument Park.

wes_mantooth

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Nov 10, 2010 9:17pm

Ironman92;553192 wrote:http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding/_/position/ss/league/al/order/true

I'm not saying he should've won it....but saying he had a poor fielding % is beyond ignorant......maybe hit on his range

Jeter only had 6 errors on the entire season

My bad...i guess my point is that his best days are behind him and he is no longer the best ss in the game...prob not even top ten.

These awards are a joke because once you get one....you get it every year, no matter what

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karen lotz

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Nov 10, 2010 9:24pm

Jeter ranked 20th out of 21 short stops with enough games played in range factor this year. He was also 200 total chances short of where the top 3 short stops were in the same number of games started.

Ironman92

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Nov 10, 2010 10:19pm

6 errors in 553 chances....I suppose you have to hit on his range

No overwhelming AL GG SS choice.

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dave

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Nov 10, 2010 11:00pm

This was similar to the all star vote when players/coaches left Votto out because he was the young guy and they voted in the older Reds. Now Bruce gets snubbed because guys didn't want to vote for too many Reds.

Doesn't matter to me, either way Cincy looks good.

HitsRus

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Nov 11, 2010 11:20pm

Jeter ranked 20th out of 21 short stops with enough games played in range factor this year. He was also 200 total chances short of where the top 3 short stops were in the same number of games started

Ding, ding ,ding...we have a winner!!!! Can't make an error when you can't get to the ball. Derek is a good player...just getting old.

Just to put Derek's 3.78 range factor into perspective...Jhonny Peralta's RF at SS for the Kittys was 4.38...the lowest of his career. when he was playing SS for the Tribe, it was never lower than 4.50. Peralta has never been considered by most Tribe fans to be be nothing more than an adequate SS or worse. That has NEVER been my take on JP....but I post it only as a reference point to the DEFENSIVE year that Jeter had. Giving Jeter a Gold Glove this year is a little like giving Al-Qaida the Nobel peace prize.

Laley23

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Nov 11, 2010 11:56pm

What did the numbers for Elvis Andrus look like. Seems like he was being touted for a GG throughout the season.

But he was a young guy that made some easy errors because of youth I think.

karen lotz

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Nov 12, 2010 12:00am

Andrus committed 16 errors and had a range factor of 4.48 (8th in AL). He will win a few Gold Gloves as he continues to improve.

Ironman92

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Nov 12, 2010 9:03pm

if he improves on offense he will definately win some gold gloves

sad but true

karen lotz

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Nov 12, 2010 9:06pm

That's another issue with Jeter winning a GG this year. Wasn't this one of his least productive seasons offensively too?

Ironman92

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Nov 12, 2010 9:16pm

...yes but an easy answer to voters who don't know crap about who deserves and who does not

I'm busy, busy, busy...oh gotta make my GG picks.....AL SS...uh Jeter