2quik4u
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Nov 6, 2010 4:27pm
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 6, 2010 4:42pm
Utah does nothing thus far to appear worthy of such a lofty ranking.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 6, 2010 4:58pm
TCU is taking them to the woodshed.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 6, 2010 5:01pm
Utah is no better than a .500 team if they played in a real conference.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 6, 2010 5:06pm
Cleveland Buck;547324 wrote:Utah is no better than a .500 team if they played in a real conference.
Link?
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Nov 6, 2010 5:18pm
Cleveland Buck;547324 wrote:Utah is no better than a .500 team if they played in a real conference.
LOL couldn't be that TCU is just that good............ NAW couldn't be...
Can't wait till bowl time to watch the precious BCS conference teams take a beating.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Nov 6, 2010 5:26pm
TCU is the best of all the rest of these cupcakes that includes you Boise St.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 6, 2010 5:27pm
Utah beat Pitt (3-0 and leading the Big East) and beat Iowa State (3-2 in the Big 12 and ahead of Nebraska today) by 41 points on the road.
But yeah, no way whatsoever they hang in a "real" conference.
But yeah, no way whatsoever they hang in a "real" conference.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 6, 2010 5:34pm
Mulva;547364 wrote:Utah beat Pitt (3-0 and leading the Big East) and beat Iowa State (3-2 in the Big 12 and ahead of Nebraska today) by 41 points on the road.
But yeah, no way whatsoever they hang in a "real" conference.
Keep in mind that the 'joke' of a conference they play in is on track to get AQ status while two of the current "big boys" (ACC and Big East, moreso the Big East) are in danger of losing theirs. But yeah, you're right. If some old guy on a message board in Ohio hasn't seen black and white film of your school from the 50s, you most certainly are a "cupcake"
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 6, 2010 5:37pm
Pitt doesn't play in a real conference either, and just because you beat one .500 team in a real conference doesn't mean you would finish better than that.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Nov 6, 2010 5:38pm
I would love love love to see TCU play Ohio State, just to prove once and for all if TCU is as good as the ranking and to shut people up.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Nov 6, 2010 5:40pm
tk421;547386 wrote:I would love love love to see TCU play Ohio State, just to prove once and for all if TCU is as good as the ranking and to shut people up.
It probably won't happen, the BCS will find a way to pair them with another non-AQ school so that the general public continues to have no idea how they matchup with the big boys on the big stage.
They do not want to see a repeat of Utah-Alabama
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 6, 2010 5:41pm
Cleveland Buck;547385 wrote:Pitt doesn't play in a real conference either, and just because you beat one .500 team in a real conference doesn't mean you would finish better than that.
You're completely right. They could never hang. They couldn't hang with Alabama 2 years ago either. I would have loved to see the two of them play, like in the Sugar Bowl or something...
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Nov 6, 2010 5:43pm
Utah did whip Bama 2 yrs ago but that was 2 yrs ago.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 6, 2010 5:44pm
Zombaypirate;547348 wrote:LOL couldn't be that TCU is just that good............ NAW couldn't be...
Can't wait till bowl time to watch the precious BCS conference teams take a beating.
Maybe TCU is that good, but we don't know since they won't schedule anyone.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Nov 6, 2010 5:45pm
Al Bundy;547395 wrote:Maybe TCU is that good, but we don't know since they won't schedule anyone.
Or vicea versa
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 6, 2010 5:49pm
This Utah team isn't the same one that beat Alabama. Just like this Boise State team isn't the same one that beat Oklahoma 4 years ago.
Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Nov 6, 2010 5:50pm
TCU: 37
Utah: 0
5:33 left in 3rd quarter
Utah: 0
5:33 left in 3rd quarter
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 6, 2010 5:53pm
Cleveland Buck;547401 wrote:This Utah team isn't the same one that beat Alabama. Just like this Boise State team isn't the same one that beat Oklahoma 4 years ago.
They still played in a not-real conference though, so they should have had no business winning that game against a 12 win team from a real conference.
Your entire argument has been that teams in bad conferences can't possibly be good. So why should the year be relevant? Same school and same garbage conference.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 6, 2010 5:54pm
Gary Danielson was talking about the non AQ teams and Verne asked him how they could break through. He mentioned Florida State in the early 80s. They showed some of Florida State's schedule in 1981.
at Nebraska
at Ohio State
at Notre Dame
at Pittsburgh
at LSU
vs. Miami (FL)
at Florida
Those first 5 games were all in a row. All on the road. I doubt FSU demanded home games in return. If one of the cupcakes wants to be taken seriously, put together a schedule like that.
at Nebraska
at Ohio State
at Notre Dame
at Pittsburgh
at LSU
vs. Miami (FL)
at Florida
Those first 5 games were all in a row. All on the road. I doubt FSU demanded home games in return. If one of the cupcakes wants to be taken seriously, put together a schedule like that.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Nov 6, 2010 5:55pm
True but playing 1 tough game a year vs 8 or 9 or 10 makes a difference. I think a few SEC teams or BIG10 or BIG12 teams could roll out the scout team and have little trouble in some of these conferences.Mulva;547405 wrote:They still played in a not-real conference though, so they should have had no business winning that game against a 12 win team from a real conference.
Your entire argument has been that teams in bad conferences can't possibly be good. So why should the year be relevant? Same school and same garbage conference.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 6, 2010 5:56pm
FSU was an independent, and had scheduling flexibility that no conference team has. It was a fail on Gary Danielson's part, like just about everything else that comes out of his mouth.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 6, 2010 5:56pm
Mulva;547405 wrote: Your entire argument has been that teams in bad conferences can't possibly be good. So why should the year be relevant? Same school and same garbage conference.
Please show me the post or posts where I made that argument. I never said the mid majors can't be good or aren't good. I've only argued that we have no way of knowing if they are good. It is my opinion, based on Utah's performance against a substandard schedule, that if they played a real schedule, this Utah team would finish around 6-6 or 7-5.
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Nov 6, 2010 5:57pm
Fixed that for ya!Al Bundy;547395 wrote:Maybe TCU is that good, but we don't know since no one will schedule them.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 6, 2010 5:58pm
Mulva;547410 wrote:FSU was an independent, and had scheduling flexibility that no conference team has. It was a fail on Gary Danielson's part, like just about everything else that comes out of his mouth.
Boise still has 4 nonconference games. They could schedule 4 road games in a row against big time programs. No one is going to give them a home game in return, and they shouldn't expect one.