
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 3, 2010 1:10am
George Washington now has a male on their women's team....
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=5758450
Have at it...
I put this here since it really has nothing to do with basketball.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=5758450
Have at it...
I put this here since it really has nothing to do with basketball.
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
Nov 3, 2010 2:25am
From what i know of this story, physiologically, she is still a woman, so makes completely sense that she would still be on the woman's team. Don't think she is going through any sort of hormone treatment, so seems only logical that she would continue to play on the woman's team.
Not sure why we need to "have it," nothing outrageous about it, given that she is still, physically, a woman.
Pretty cool that she/he is being supported fully by the administration/team.
Cool story.
If i'm wrong about the hormone treatment and the like, please correct me.
Not sure why we need to "have it," nothing outrageous about it, given that she is still, physically, a woman.
Pretty cool that she/he is being supported fully by the administration/team.
Cool story.
If i'm wrong about the hormone treatment and the like, please correct me.

Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Nov 3, 2010 8:12am
If "it" wants to be identified as a man, then what is "it" doing playing woman's basketball where everyone else is a woman?!A female-to-male transgender member of the George Washington women's basketball team wants to be identified as a man this season.
I didn't choose to come into this world from a middle-income family, shorter than 6'4", and the genetics less than Roman gladiator, but you don't see acting crazy.GW has been supportive during this transition. This means a lot. I didn't choose to be born in this body and feel the way I do
You are who we thought you are - a woman.it bothered me to hide who I am
I have no problem with "him" playing women's collegiate basketball. "He" is "still" a girl, and therefore is physically enhanced as such.Allums "has informed the university that he will not begin any medical or drug protocols while a student-athlete. The university consulted the NCAA regarding his competitive status. Kye will continue to be a member of the women's basketball team."
I have no problem with "Kyle" (or anyone else for that matter) "transgendering." Do i agree with it? Hell no; but at the end of the day, it's their decision - it's their body, their life, their whatever. Do what you want - just don't bring it into others arenas and expect that everything is going to be honkeydori. It doesn't work that way.
"She" can live "her" life as a "he." But the minute "she" starts bringing that into the public domain where there are lines, such as sports, between men vs men sports and women vs women sports, "her" crap doesn't fly anymore. "She's" making the choice, and by making that choice, "she" is forfeiting some of her "rights."
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 3, 2010 8:46am
So what's the big F'n deal... LeBron "I've Gotta Huge Vagina" James plays in the NBA?

ernest_t_bass
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Nov 3, 2010 8:55am


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Nov 3, 2010 8:56am
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Nov 3, 2010 1:07pm
I don't get the big deal either. She isn't a transsexual, she's not pumping in testosterone.
I suppose anyone can say that their name is Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho and that they are neither male nore female or even human as they didn't choose that when they were born but rather chooses to be the spawn of a gelfling and the Great Lord Ctuhulu. But if they physically qualify to play women's basketball, it shouldn't be news.
I suppose anyone can say that their name is Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho and that they are neither male nore female or even human as they didn't choose that when they were born but rather chooses to be the spawn of a gelfling and the Great Lord Ctuhulu. But if they physically qualify to play women's basketball, it shouldn't be news.

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 3, 2010 2:59pm
Has a vag = is still a woman....write the story when "it" has a dong and is playing woman's sports!

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 3, 2010 5:40pm
its cool that she/he has support from her campus community and all. I don't really see what the big deal is. She's basically just announced that she's gonna dress/act like a dude but not have all the shit done yet
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Nov 3, 2010 5:45pm
^^^ Agreed, it isn't a big deal. S/He didn't do anything, yet to some media types she/he might as well have leaped on a grenade.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Transgender-George-Washington-player-a-fascinati?urn=ncaab-282180
What is so brave or courageous about this? Answer: Nothing. Because nothing happened.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Transgender-George-Washington-player-a-fascinati?urn=ncaab-282180
What is so brave or courageous about this? Answer: Nothing. Because nothing happened.

sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 3, 2010 6:00pm
In my experiences, 90-95% of the chicks on the women's basketball teams look, dress, and act like dudes.
Someone remind me why this is a news story again?
Someone remind me why this is a news story again?

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Nov 3, 2010 6:01pm
ccrunner609;544071 wrote:your hittin it either way arent you?
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Nov 3, 2010 9:27pm
Another article:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/ncaa/women/11/03/george.washington.transgender.ap/index.html?eref=sihp
What publicity, the one created? No one cares.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/ncaa/women/11/03/george.washington.transgender.ap/index.html?eref=sihp
What publicity, the one created? No one cares.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Nov 3, 2010 9:47pm
Cmon you hateful far right wing religious hypocrits where you at . besides in the gay closet .
Look as long as this person did not have any medical procedure done to change the medical definition of a woman there is no problem whatesoever . Dont even really know why this is news. This is just publicity for the far left wing nut jobs and now they just pizzed off the far right wing nazi's . The chick is still a chick medically speaking thats all that counts . Boy cant wait for all the hate speach on this topic .
You far right wing hateful religious hypocrits make me wamnt to puke , and you far left wing comunists need to quit pushing your views down everybodies throat . most Americans are pretty understanding and tolerant about most things ,but topics like this really stir the pot or cesspool I should say
Look as long as this person did not have any medical procedure done to change the medical definition of a woman there is no problem whatesoever . Dont even really know why this is news. This is just publicity for the far left wing nut jobs and now they just pizzed off the far right wing nazi's . The chick is still a chick medically speaking thats all that counts . Boy cant wait for all the hate speach on this topic .
You far right wing hateful religious hypocrits make me wamnt to puke , and you far left wing comunists need to quit pushing your views down everybodies throat . most Americans are pretty understanding and tolerant about most things ,but topics like this really stir the pot or cesspool I should say
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Nov 3, 2010 9:52pm
I agree we should be tolerant, but how the hell is this news? What does the player want? To be called a "he" instead of a "she" in the game program - for the women's team at George Washington U.?
I still don't understand how this is news. This person didn't do anything.
I still don't understand how this is news. This person didn't do anything.

ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 3, 2010 9:59pm
Thinthickbigred;544263 wrote:Cmon you hateful far right wing religious hypocrits where you at . besides in the gay closet .
Look as long as this person did not have any medical procedure done to change the medical definition of a woman there is no problem whatesoever . Dont even really know why this is news. This is just publicity for the far left wing nut jobs and now they just pizzed off the far right wing nazi's . The chick is still a chick medically speaking thats all that counts . Boy cant wait for all the hate speach on this topic .
You far right wing hateful religious hypocrits make me wamnt to puke , and you far left wing comunists need to quit pushing your views down everybodies throat . most Americans are pretty understanding and tolerant about most things ,but topics like this really stir the pot or cesspool I should say
I think you have the hate speech pretty well locked up all by yer ignorant damn self.
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Nov 3, 2010 10:56pm
ytownfootball;544299 wrote:I think you have the hate speech pretty well locked up all by yer ignorant damn self.
You know what I hate ? Intolerance and narrow minds. Politics in this country make me sick . I dont hate anybody because of what they are or color or religion . Now every single one of us has prejudices ,and unless your the pope on here you have probably used an ethnic or sexist slur , Just be real about it . It doesnt make you a bad person . I dont like the propaganda that both the far right wing and the far left wing put out . Both groups are self serving and rightious hypocrits. I dont like the fact that the far left tries tell us we have to accept this or that but they want to take god out of public schools , they seem to me like they are tearing down the moral fiber of our society at every turn . I equally am disgusted by the less than compassionate far right that tries to pit people against each other and use relgion as a pretext. .............. I guess I am just middle of the road and want to make a paycheck like everybody else and not be told what to think or be made to feel guilty for who I am .
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Nov 4, 2010 10:26am
I really think he/she/the University/Media is putting her in a REALLY BAD situation. There will be people out there doing/saying things to her all season. I remember our girl's team in high school playing against a team that had a big athletic girl. Whenever this girl took the court, the opposing team's student section would yell things "She's a Man" "Check her pants".... That's high school students going against a high school girl that just happened to be big and athletic.
I agree this shouldn't be news, mainly because of the negative publicity that will ensue during the season; I can almost guarantee it.
I agree this shouldn't be news, mainly because of the negative publicity that will ensue during the season; I can almost guarantee it.

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Nov 4, 2010 10:27am
Is that JR Rider?
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Nov 4, 2010 3:52pm
Well said dont you all think.