R's pick up the House and will come close to a seat or two from gaining control of the Senate in what will become known as one of the biggest power shifts in US history. It will be so large that the MSM will not be able to cover BHO's admission that it is a referendum on his agenda.

The election will be spun by D's as a quirky knee-jerk reaction by uninformed voters.

The election will be spun by R's as affirmation to their ideology.

The energized and informed voters know that any 2010 elected office-holder will be on probation and subject to a very short leash.

Apple;541657 wrote:R's pick up the House and will come close to a seat or two from gaining control of the Senate in what will become known as one of the biggest power shifts in US history. It will be so large that the MSM will not be able to cover BHO's admission that it is a referendum on his agenda.

The election will be spun by D's as a quirky knee-jerk reaction by uninformed voters.

The election will be spun by R's as affirmation to their ideology.

The energized and informed voters know that any 2010 elected office-holder will be on probation and subject to a very short leash.

I agree with you on this. Every commentator I've heard has said if the Republicans go back to doing the same exact things they were doing pre-2006,the Dems will regain control in 2012

Who knows, the liberals have enabled so many to feed off the public trough that it will be difficult to reverse course ---- the Tea Party may have arrived too late to reverse the damage inflicted

The party of Dependence has infected deep. Like pulling a weed or fighting cancer, the fight will not be over even with a large victory tomorrow, but must continue till the disease is totally eradicated.

I'm pretty sure this is illegal and I'm 100% sure its unethical. The old ladies inside went out and took them down. Sickening

I Wear Pants;540987 wrote:You're an idiot for saying "real Americans".

Hhmmmm....what does that make Obama since he called people like Quaker and myself "enemies"?

I thought he was the President of all Americans, not just the ones that elected him? He has NEVER made the transition from compaigner to executive. He continues to potty-mouth those that disagree with him....and there are many on here calling for bi-partisanship. Think he'll be changing any of his views in the next 2 years to work with the other side of America? Your answer lies in his retort a few days ago when he acknowledged if Republicans win, they can ride in the back.

BGFalcons82;541841 wrote:Hhmmmm....what does that make Obama since he called people like Quaker and myself "enemies"?

I thought he was the President of all Americans, not just the ones that elected him? He has NEVER made the transition from compaigner to executive. He continues to potty-mouth those that disagree with him....and there are many on here calling for bi-partisanship. Think he'll be changing any of his views in the next 2 years to work with the other side of America? Your answer lies in his retort a few days ago when he acknowledged if Republicans win, they can ride in the back.

I see no refution to this. AMEN!!!

BGFalcons82;541841 wrote:Hhmmmm....what does that make Obama since he called people like Quaker and myself "enemies"?

Oh, and let's not forget that you and Quaker and other like yourselves need to be punished!

BGFalcons82;541841 wrote:Hhmmmm....what does that make Obama since he called people like Quaker and myself "enemies"?

I thought he was the President of all Americans, not just the ones that elected him? He has NEVER made the transition from compaigner to executive. He continues to potty-mouth those that disagree with him....and there are many on here calling for bi-partisanship. Think he'll be changing any of his views in the next 2 years to work with the other side of America? Your answer lies in his retort a few days ago when he acknowledged if Republicans win, they can ride in the back.

Class dismissed.

And after all that, Bam is going to take to the airwaves tomorrow morning with yet another two-faced call for an "end to partisanship." Priceless.

BGFalcons82;541841 wrote:Hhmmmm....what does that make Obama since he called people like Quaker and myself "enemies"?

I thought he was the President of all Americans, not just the ones that elected him? He has NEVER made the transition from compaigner to executive. He continues to potty-mouth those that disagree with him....and there are many on here calling for bi-partisanship. Think he'll be changing any of his views in the next 2 years to work with the other side of America? Your answer lies in his retort a few days ago when he acknowledged if Republicans win, they can ride in the back.

You have no desire for bipartisanship. Bruce Bartlett, an economic adviser in the Reagan Administration has said "Federal taxes are very considerably lower by every measure since Obama became president," with 95% of American seeing tax relief thus far. The "Pledge to America" has been called "The most fiscally irresponsible document ever offered by the GOP," by fiscal conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan.

President Obama has signed a law that requires people to buy health insurance in the private insurance market when he himself has said previously he believes, for whatever reason, in single-payer healthcare.

The guy is reasonable and willing to form consensus with contemporary liberal views and conservatives but no...it is you who is not interested in compromise at all. You've said it before "we've compromised enough! Government's too big!" Blah, blah. Despite empirical facts to the contrary you still believe with steadfast ignorance that the GOP is fiscally conservative and that the democrats are stealing your money with taxes

That's fine if you believe that, but, don't act for a second like you're interested in coming to a compromise with a big government liberal. You aren't interested in cooperating with the president or liberals who might have a more Christian style theory of justice as their "comprehensive doctrine" as opposed to the more merit based system underlying the Tea Party movements, etc.

Obama backtracking on "enemies" comment:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69929420101101

And yes, I look forward to tuning in PMSnbc tonight to watch and hear the silencing of the venemous tongues.

BoatShoes;541896 wrote:You have no desire for bipartisanship. Bruce Bartlett, an economic adviser in the Reagan Administration has said "Federal taxes are very considerably lower by every measure since Obama became president," with 95% of American seeing tax relief thus far. The "Pledge to America" has been called "The most fiscally irresponsible document ever offered by the GOP," by fiscal conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan.

I'm not sure why you people continue to trot out opinion pieces by conservative columnists who differ from the party line and try to spin them like they represent some kind of "facts." Taxes are lower because incomes have fallen for most Americans over the past 24 months. So, if you want to give Bam credit for that, knock yerself out.

BoatShoes;541896 wrote:President Obama has signed a law that requires people to buy health insurance in the private insurance market when he himself has said previously he believes, for whatever reason, in single-payer healthcare.

So violating the constitution qualifies as some kind of "compromise?" He'd have been better off constitutionally to stick with single-payer. In any case, he "compromised" with the blue dogs in conservative districts...not the pubs. Three separate HC proposals from the GOP went straight to the shredder. Compromise fail. Sorry.

BoatShoes;541896 wrote:The guy is reasonable and willing to form consensus with contemporary liberal views and conservatives but no...it is you who is not interested in compromise at all. You've said it before "we've compromised enough! Government's too big!" Blah, blah. Despite empirical facts to the contrary you still believe with steadfast ignorance that the GOP is fiscally conservative and that the democrats are stealing your money with taxes

Again, op-ed pieces hardly equal "empirical facts."

Reasonable people don't use the word "enemies" to describe American citizens. He's a petulant, thin-skinned, immature, arrogant punk. And as of tonight, he's in for a world of butthurt.

BoatShoes;541896 wrote:The guy is reasonable

Just here for the lawlz!

Fish, you got it wrong. The President isn't in for a world of butthurt, the American people are. After the Republicans gain control of the House there will be NO significant legislation moving forward or becoming law. It will die a slow death in the Senate, something the Republicans have mastered of late. Only the most unassuming, benign pieces of legislation will make its way to the desk of the President. The ensuing gridlock will make '94 look like child's play and the Party of No will have accomplished its goal.

QuakerOats;541908 wrote:..... I look forward to tuning in PMSnbc tonight to watch and hear the silencing of the venemous tongues.

And, once that happens, look for all kinds of excuses and deflection of accountability.......

"They stole the election......."

"The previous administration........."

rather than this being a referendum on the policies and tactics of the current Democratic controlled House, Senate and White House.

stlouiedipalma;541954 wrote: After the Republicans gain control of the House there will be NO significant legislation moving forward or becoming law. It will die a slow death in the Senate, something the Republicans have mastered of late. Only the most unassuming, benign pieces of legislation will make its way to the desk of the President. The ensuing gridlock will make '94 look like child's play and the Party of No will have accomplished its goal.

I'm not sure that I would mind. At least, I wouldn't mind a portion (significant or otherwise) dying a stagnate death. I would hope that most Americans would feel the same.

stlouiedipalma;541954 wrote:Fish, you got it wrong. The President isn't in for a world of butthurt, the American people are. After the Republicans gain control of the House there will be NO significant legislation moving forward or becoming law. It will die a slow death in the Senate, something the Republicans have mastered of late. Only the most unassuming, benign pieces of legislation will make its way to the desk of the President. The ensuing gridlock will make '94 look like child's play and the Party of No will have accomplished its goal.

From where we stand today, the benefit of not passing any program that will add to the hole that's been dug will far outweigh the benefit of the program itself.

I don't think we need the pols to do any more harm, we have the Fed to do that for us. If they go through with this $500B bond purchase it might as well scream "Let's kill the dollar!" It is a panic move, and an admission that as so much as the stimulus was meant to stimulate American production and employment, it failed miserably because we still can't compete.

Manhattan Buckeye;541985 wrote:I don't think we need the pols to do any more harm, we have the Fed to do that for us. If they go through with this $500B bond purchase it might as well scream "Let's kill the dollar!" It is a panic move, and an admission that as so much as the stimulus was meant to stimulate American production and employment, it failed miserably because we still can't compete.

The fed has no choice, based on the corner the ruling class in DC has put us. Pretty soon, inflation kicks in, and the fed won't be able to stop it. Check out the value of our dollar today and then after tomorrow. I suppose if the Chinese own us, we might as well start using their currency while we're at it. God save us.

stlouiedipalma;541954 wrote:Fish, you got it wrong. The President isn't in for a world of butthurt, the American people are. After the Republicans gain control of the House there will be NO significant legislation moving forward or becoming law. It will die a slow death in the Senate, something the Republicans have mastered of late. Only the most unassuming, benign pieces of legislation will make its way to the desk of the President. The ensuing gridlock will make '94 look like child's play and the Party of No will have accomplished its goal.

Again Lou...the Party of No advanced three separate healthcare proposals into committee in the House. They went in the shredder. The Party of No has submitted an alternate proposal to every single Obama imitative. Every one went directly to the circular file. Awesome slogan, though. It really got the job done.

And I feel confident that there will be several high-profile pieces of legislation reach the President's desk. It'll be up to him if he wants to be politically astute enough to consider them.

The unwashed masses are speaking loud and clear....put the brakes on this agenda. I said over a year ago that the POTUS was in serious danger of overplaying his hand...and as usual, I was right.

CenterBHSFan;541962 wrote:I'm not sure that I would mind. At least, I wouldn't mind a portion (significant or otherwise) dying a stagnate death. I would hope that most Americans would feel the same.

queencitybuckeye;541982 wrote:From where we stand today, the benefit of not passing any program that will add to the hole that's been dug will far outweigh the benefit of the program itself.

BGFalcons82;541993 wrote:The fed has no choice, based on the corner the ruling class in DC has put us. Pretty soon, inflation kicks in, and the fed won't be able to stop it. Check out the value of our dollar today and then after tomorrow. I suppose if the Chinese own us, we might as well start using their currency while we're at it. God save us.

I'm not for one for gridlock. Given we need to reform Medicare/ Medicaid, SS, Defense budget, infrastructure, Immigration and the budget all relatively soon, gridlock would be the worst thing. These issues are not going away and will not solve themselves. The R's better come in with real solutions to these problems and work across the aisle to get them done. If not, they are out in 2012.

Inflation? I have not heard anything on inflation, I've heard about deflation though.

fish82;541994 wrote:Again Lou...the Party of No advanced three separate healthcare proposals into committee in the House. They went in the shredder. The Party of No has submitted an alternate proposal to every single Obama imitative. Every one went directly to the circular file. Awesome slogan, though. It really got the job done.

And I feel confident that there will be several high-profile pieces of legislation reach the President's desk. It'll be up to him if he wants to be politically astute enough to consider them.

The unwashed masses are speaking loud and clear....put the brakes on this agenda. I said over a year ago that the POTUS was in serious danger of overplaying his hand...and as usual, I was right.

Sure, I agree with most of that. But, we still need to fix the major issues in this country and gridlock will do nothing. It will only make matters worse. Yes, the D's screwed up in 06-10 and did not tackle the large issues, but the R's better be able to step to the plate and get things done.

I know you arent intending to say that the D's dont have a clue in how to fix a mess started by the R's years ago and have piled on recently so therefore the R's better do it after this election or else, but it sure sounds that way! lol

ptown_trojans_1;542039 wrote:I'm not for one for gridlock. Given we need to reform Medicare/ Medicaid, SS, Defense budget, infrastructure, Immigration and the budget all relatively soon, gridlock would be the worst thing. These issues are not going away and will not solve themselves. The R's better come in with real solutions to these problems and work across the aisle to get them done. If not, they are out in 2012.

Inflation? I have not heard anything on inflation, I've heard about deflation though.



Sure, I agree with most of that. But, we still need to fix the major issues in this country and gridlock will do nothing. It will only make matters worse. Yes, the D's screwed up in 06-10 and did not tackle the large issues, but the R's better be able to step to the plate and get things done.

I would much rather have a stagnate state rather than our congress passing anything and everything just so it could say "Look how much we've done!".

In my mind, quality should prevail over quantity. And, we just haven't seen that in how long? Take for instance the "health insurance reform" bill: trash.
Was that bill worthy of being passed? That's the kind of stuff that should have been left to die.

Stalemating forces politicians to slow down, chew on it, sort things out, think it through, step back from it and look at it again. That then produces things that are quality.
Hopefully, that clarifies my thoughts better for you to understand. I don't know how else to explain my point of view.

ptown_trojans_1;542039 wrote:I'm not for one for gridlock.

I'm not for gridlock for gridlock's sake, but somehow, some way, these people have to stop spending more money that we do not have. This MUST become the prime directive, moreso than any particular problem that needs solved. I'd rather it be done with intention, but failing that, gridlock is a far better alternative than the status quo.

bases_loaded;541815 wrote:I'm pretty sure this is illegal and I'm 100% sure its unethical. The old ladies inside went out and took them down. Sickening

As long as they are 100 feet from the door it's legal. Those look to be right around that range, but it's close. There are signs for an R candidate (Craig Newbold) outside of my polling place at the driveway, but it's easily 100 feet from the door.

ptown_trojans_1;542039 wrote:Inflation? I have not heard anything on inflation, I've heard about deflation though.

Hyperinflation worries from Forbes - http://blogs.forbes.com/greatspeculations/2010/11/01/ben-bernanke-and-the-outlook-for-hyperinflation/?boxes=marketschannelnews
How it will happen from the Business Insider - http://www.businessinsider.com/how-hyperinflation-will-happen-in-america-2010-9

For a modern day example...read about the Zimbabwe dollar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_Zimbabwe We aren't in their situation....yet.