Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 17, 2010 1:51pm
Someone explain this to me, Desean Jackson had both hands on the ball and trying to make the catch. Dunta Robinson absolutely dropped him...and he gets called for a hit on a defenseless player? He didnt lead with his head( or he would of ben called for that), so what is the defensive player supposed to just let the Wr's catch the ball?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 17, 2010 1:58pm
it is a bullshit rule...simple response
They pretty much call it when they feel like it.
They pretty much call it when they feel like it.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 17, 2010 2:03pm
A DB pretty much has to let them catch it and come down before hitting them. Its BS. Might as well hit the guy and hope they dont call it imo.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 17, 2010 2:07pm
Brandon Merriweather just hit Todd Heap helmet to helmet. He received a penalty.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 17, 2010 2:10pm
bigdaddy2003;522946 wrote:Brandon Merriweather just hit Todd Heap helmet to helmet. He received a penalty.
Yeah, but it is so random...Cribbs got drilled by a helmet to helmet and is probably done for the game....no penalty on that one.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 17, 2010 2:19pm
Not to mention Mo Mas got decapitated and no flag. And that was the definition of a defenless player, he didn't even have the ball.Brandon Merriweather just hit Todd Heap helmet to helmet. He received a penalty.
Yeah, but it is so random...Cribbs got drilled by a helmet to helmet and is probably done for the game....no penalty on that one.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 17, 2010 2:21pm
^^^Yeah, Harrison will get the shit fined out of him...but no penalty. It is just a garbage rule.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 17, 2010 2:21pm
The hit two weeks ago right before halftime in the Bengals/Browns game where the Cincy defender hit the Browns WR right as he touched the ball and he got called for the "Hitting A Defenseless Receiver" ..... This call has been called basically whenever the ref decides he wants to call it...
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 17, 2010 2:28pm
I just saw the shot on Desean Jackson....that was the scariest hit I've seen in a long time.....and not penalty worthy IMO
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Oct 17, 2010 4:26pm
[video=youtube;-4SQdcYDI-Y][/video]
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Oct 17, 2010 4:36pm
Simplest way to get rid of hits like that... take away helmets and people won't throw their bodies around like missiles... although game speed would probably slow down and less "exciting" big hits.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 17, 2010 5:01pm
I certainly hope Robinson doesn't get fined. That was a completely legal hit. Jackson would've caught the ball had Robinson not put the hit on him.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 17, 2010 5:09pm
Yeah, not sure what Robinson is supposed to do in that situation...Let one of the fastest players in the NFL catch the ball in stride and take off?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 17, 2010 5:15pm
That was a GREAT hit by Robinson. Right in the chest. Jackson was looking. Jackson HAD CAUGHT the ball. Jackson was about to take his second step since CATCHING THE BALL.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 18, 2010 1:44am
They definitely need to get a handle on this, the consistency in how the calls are made.
It seems like overall there were a lot of crushing hits on Sunday.
It seems like overall there were a lot of crushing hits on Sunday.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 18, 2010 7:14am
Just another reason the NFL is a joke.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 18, 2010 7:22am
I didn't catch who was announcing in that clip, but he kept saying "we have to eliminate that play, I'm not sure how." Here's one idea, don't have your QB lead you into a defensive back so he can take your head off.
Jack Tatum is probably rolling in his grave about these rules.
Jack Tatum is probably rolling in his grave about these rules.
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Sonofanump
Oct 18, 2010 8:56am
se-alum;523215 wrote:I certainly hope Robinson doesn't get fined. That was a completely legal hit. Jackson would've caught the ball had Robinson not put the hit on him.
Except for the part where he lowers his helmet and leads with crown. The major concern is using the helmet as a weapon not a safety device.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 18, 2010 10:17am
Oh my god is that fucking bullshit. Shame on you ref.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Oct 18, 2010 10:25am
Sonofanump;523844 wrote:Except for the part where he lowers his helmet and leads with crown. The major concern is using the helmet as a weapon not a safety device.
This.
HIT. WRAP. DRIVE. Keep your head up.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 18, 2010 10:40am
I don't think he "led" with the crown. He lowered his head a bit before contact on the other guy's SHOULDER.
Even so, bad form is not a penalty.
Even so, bad form is not a penalty.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 18, 2010 11:23am
There were some really violent hits this weekend in the NFL. And this topic was heavily discussed on Mike and Mike this morning and is also addressed by Peter King in his MNQB. King referred to Rodney Harrison who said the only way to clean it up is to suspend players for the hits. The fine of $10k isn't going to do anything, but you make a guy sit for a game or two and they will learn to hit without leading with their head.
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Sonofanump
Oct 18, 2010 11:23am
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-rutgers-legrandinjury
"appeared to duck his head while making the hit."
Found a video:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/ncf/news/story?id=5696563
"appeared to duck his head while making the hit."
Found a video:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/ncf/news/story?id=5696563
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Oct 18, 2010 11:30am
WebFire;523898 wrote:I don't think he "led" with the crown. He lowered his head a bit before contact on the other guy's SHOULDER.
Even so, bad form is not a penalty.
Maybe not but it is a good way to get yourself or someone else seriously injured.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 18, 2010 11:59am
Jawbreaker;523924 wrote:Maybe not but it is a good way to get yourself or someone else seriously injured.
I think they know the risks of the game. There is a reason they are making so much money.