karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2010 2:09pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/magazine/10/12/agent/index.html?eref=sihp
Story on Josh Luchs, an agent claiming to have paid dozens of college football players.
Story on Josh Luchs, an agent claiming to have paid dozens of college football players.
grodt
Posts: 1,588
Oct 12, 2010 2:26pm
Really good read. Great insight to a world that few of us understand.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Oct 12, 2010 2:34pm
Great read. Some interesting stuff in there for sure.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 12, 2010 2:35pm
Very interesting, but I'm not surprised at all. (and I don't think anyone else really is either.)
krambman
Posts: 3,606
Oct 12, 2010 2:42pm
I think that this will finally get the NFL to begin cracking down on this sort of thing. As we learned with the Reggie Bush incident, the NCAA has no means to punish the agents who do this, and since this stuff usually comes out after a student has left school there's no way for them to punish the offender either. So the NCAA is left with punishing the programs and the players who come later.
On a side note, they were saying on the radio earlier that the NCAA has a five year statute of limitations on this sort of thing so nothing will likely come of this from an NCAA standpoint since this mostly happened in 2005.
On a side note, they were saying on the radio earlier that the NCAA has a five year statute of limitations on this sort of thing so nothing will likely come of this from an NCAA standpoint since this mostly happened in 2005.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 12, 2010 3:05pm
Why would the NFL care if college athletes are being paid? I know morally they should, but is there really any reason to think that things will change all of a sudden.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 12, 2010 3:07pm
Not revealing at all. If you follow sports, you knew this went on. Only semi-surprising thing is this guy "named - names" usually these kinda stories refer to sombody like "...a well known WR from Ohio State currently playing in the NFL"...etc etc. Gotta give him props for that. But he will definitely be getting his ass kicked in some bar in the near future.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Oct 12, 2010 3:32pm
Agents who pay the players and give them benefits, they should be treated just like players, I think they should get punished like Nick Saban or Bob Stoops said by losing their license for a year.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 12, 2010 3:39pm
Just read it and it's really not that revealing. Who didn't know that stuff goes on?
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 12, 2010 3:50pm
Tiger2003;517540 wrote:Agents who pay the players and give them benefits, they should be treated just like players, I think they should get punished like Nick Saban or Bob Stoops said by losing their license for a year.
The guy did lose his license. He's not an agent anymore and that's why he's not afraid to come out and name names.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 12, 2010 3:52pm
Good read, not surprising, just interesting that he actually named names, as Tiernan said.
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the_system
Posts: 465
Oct 12, 2010 6:22pm
In November 2005, Steve and I flew to Ohio State to talk to receiver Santonio Holmes. We met him outside the football building, and he said, "Listen, I want to save you the time. We don't need to meet. I've been taking money from [an agent] the last couple years, and he's been taking care of my family too."
ouch. At least it goes on everywhere though...
ouch. At least it goes on everywhere though...
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2010 7:23pm
http://twitter.com/#!/BFeldmanESPN/status/27168655255the_system;517707 wrote:In November 2005, Steve and I flew to Ohio State to talk to receiver Santonio Holmes. We met him outside the football building, and he said, "Listen, I want to save you the time. We don't need to meet. I've been taking money from [an agent] the last couple years, and he's been taking care of my family too."
ouch. At least it goes on everywhere though...
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2010/10/story_alleges_former_buckeye_s.htmlOhio State compliance office starting to look into Santonio Holmes agent allegations
Nothing will happen to OSU since its after the 4 year window, unless it is thought that OSU knew about it and tried to cover it up.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Oct 12, 2010 7:24pm
i like that he named names and called out people and most confirmed it
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Oct 12, 2010 9:49pm
also suprised at some of the guys he said wouldnt take money like Keyshawn Johnson
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Oct 12, 2010 9:51pm
FatHobbit;517566 wrote:The guy did lose his license. He's not an agent anymore and that's why he's not afraid to come out and name names.
Yea but he didn't lose his license for breaking the rules.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Oct 12, 2010 9:59pm
Gives me even more of a reason to hate Mel Kiper.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 12, 2010 11:10pm
Awesome stuff. Those guys were raking in the cash. Imagine some of the "crappy" players he was dishing out hundreds a month to that signed with someone else. How many agents were all paying these guys. Then think of how many agents were paying the top guys thousands a month. Sheesh.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Oct 12, 2010 11:51pm
He had a good point though..
The NCAA makes a TON of cash off these kids.
The NCAA makes a TON of cash off these kids.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 13, 2010 9:12am
sportchampps;517881 wrote:also suprised at some of the guys he said wouldnt take money like Keyshawn Johnson
Trueblue23;517888 wrote:Gives me even more of a reason to hate Mel Kiper.
These were two of the more interesting points I took away from the article.
FYI, he's going to be on Mike and Mike at 9:15. Should be interesting.
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JU-ICE
Posts: 259
Oct 13, 2010 10:58am
I think the only way to deter this from happening is to make it a crime with mandatory prison time.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 13, 2010 11:06am
Fascinating read so far. Made it about halfway through this morning before work
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Oct 13, 2010 11:30am
Trueblue23;517888 wrote:Gives me even more of a reason to hate Mel Kiper.
exaclty how i felt. i've always heard that kiper uses his "influence" on draft status to inflate guys into earlier rounds. now it would seem that he does it for kickbacks from the players' agents.
i was also shocked at the names of players that wouldn't take money. i'd have thought stubblefield, johnson, etc. would have definitely taken the money. kudos to them for not getting roped in.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 13, 2010 12:22pm
I heard somewhere that Jimmy Clausen was a client of Gary Wichard. Now I think I understand why Kiper was getting so emotional during the draft when Clausen was dropping like a rock. I remember wondering why Kiper was taking it so personally
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Gblock
Oct 13, 2010 12:31pm
kiper defended himself very well on mike and mike this morning breaking down players that this guy had signed and where he ranked them, not much evidence there...