Alright, seeing that Alabama has lost, and who knows what else could happen this year, I had a thought come to me during the Michigan State/Michigan game.

Since Michigan State and Ohio State do not play each other this year, and something crazy happens (such as they both go undefeated and everyone else loses one game), do they play each other for the National Championship? I know that this is very hypothetical, and it most likely won't happen. However, there exists the possibility it can happen. Your thoughts?

no and its stupid to even think that will happen

ZombieKiller;513832 wrote:no and its stupid to even think that will happen

So what your saying is...you don't know the answer.

I think the BCS will pray that doesn't happen. That game would be a ratings nightmare.

karen lotz;513835 wrote:I think the BCS will pray that doesn't happen. That game would be a ratings nightmare.

anytime OSU is in the national title game, is a ratings nightmare

karen lotz;513835 wrote:I think the BCS will pray that doesn't happen. That game would be a ratings nightmare.

Boise-TCU would be their worst ratings nightmare.

ZombieKiller;513838 wrote:anytime OSU is in the national title game, is a ratings nightmare

Don't let little things like the facts get in your way.

If those are the only two undefeated teams they will meet in the National title game. The chances of that happening? Very very slim.

ZombieKiller;513838 wrote:anytime OSU is in the national title game, is a ratings nightmare

Really?

Go get some facts to prove that.

devil1197;513860 wrote:Really?

Go get some facts to prove that.

You want facts? I got facts, and actually OSU does great in the rankings when their in a national title game or any BCS bowl. In fact, of 12 BCS championship games so far, the three OSU has played in were the 4th, 4th, and 6th highest rated of all time.

BOWL | YEAR | TEAMS | RATING
1. Rose Bowl | 2006 | Texas-USC | 21.7
2. Orange Bowl | 2001 | Florida State-Oklahoma | 17.8
3. Sugar Bowl | 2000 | Florida State-Virginia Tech | 17.5
T4. Championship Game | 2007 | Florida-Ohio State | 17.4
T4. Championship Game | 2008 | LSU-Ohio State | 17.4
T6. Fiesta Bowl | 2003 | Ohio State-Miami | 17.2
T6. Fiesta Bowl | 1999 | Florida State-Tennessee | 17.2

http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4819384

Seems like having OSU in the national championship game is a ratings dream if you ask me.

Michigan State's remaining schedule is very favorable. However, I don't think both teams will run the table. But it certainly is possible.

karen lotz;513835 wrote:I think the BCS will pray that doesn't happen. That game would be a ratings nightmare.

Who or what do you mean here when you say "the BCS"? Why does everyone talk about "the BCS" like it's some mythical person or some imaginary committee that controls everything? Do you mean the college presidents who have chosen the BCS as the system to determine a national champion (the presidents have no power to decide what teams actually play in the game though)? Do you mean ESPN who owns the television rights to the games (because again, ESPN has no role in picking the two teams)? Or do you mean the Fiesta Bowl Committee who is hosting the championship game this year (as before, they have no control over who plays in the game)?

krambman;514164 wrote:You want facts? I got facts, and actually OSU does great in the rankings when their in a national title game or any BCS bowl. In fact, of 12 BCS championship games so far, the three OSU has played in were the 4th, 4th, and 6th highest rated of all time.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4819384

Seems like having OSU in the national championship game is a ratings dream if you ask me.

Ohio is the 7th most populated state. Anyone who thinks the ratings would be bad is a blithering idiot.

krambman;514179 wrote:Who or what do you mean here when you say "the BCS"?

Everyone involved with the championship game.

Zombaypirate;514207 wrote:Ohio is the 7th most populated state. Anyone who thinks the ratings would be bad is a blithering idiot.

True, and OSU has the most alumnus of any school in the country, and is a fixture near the top of the college football landscape, which means people either love them or hate them, which means that everyone wants to watch them. I believe that their game against USC last year was the highest rated regular season football game ever aired on cable television.

Zombaypirate;514207 wrote:Ohio is the 7th most populated state. Anyone who thinks the ratings would be bad is a blithering idiot.

Ohio State vs Michigan State in the Championship game? Outside of Ohio and Michigan and some fans of the Big Ten, no one would care about that game. Sure there will be some fans that will watch just because its the championship game, but a lot of the casual fans around the country wouldn't give two shits about that game.

karen lotz;514215 wrote:Everyone involved with the championship game.

So you really mean the bowl itself and not the system. Everyone involved with the BCS system will make their guaranteed money no matter what the ratings are. It's only the bowl game itself and the network carrying it who stand to make more/less based on anticipated ratings because of what advertisers are willing to pay, although I would bet that most of that ad space is probably already sold, so really, the ratings won't matter much to anyone involved.

My boss and I talked about this today and came up with that there is about .00000001 percent this would happen, but if it did, it'd be great for the Big Ten and make sense. Michigan State still has trips to Iowa and Penn State. I think it's much more likely that Ohio State will play for the title and Michigan State heads to Pasadena for a showdown with either Oregon or the second best team in the Pac-10.

ccrunner609;516637 wrote:As for MSU/OSU game......the backroom deals will make sure this doesnt happen. Someone will go into one of those computers and rewrite the program to fuck MSU

Just like they did when there was a possible OSU/UM rematch in the title game. Magically UM dropped just enough to keep them out.

FatHobbit;517193 wrote:Just like they did when there was a possible OSU/UM rematch in the title game. Magically UM dropped just enough to keep them out.

Don't you think they should have fallen enough to keep them out?

WebFire;517239 wrote:Don't you think they should have fallen enough to keep them out?

I didn't care if UM made the title game or not, but the week after the game they didn't fall far enough to keep them out. Everybody started talking about how there was going to be a rematch and if anybody really wanted that. The next week they didn't play, but somehow managed to drop enough in the polls that they didn't get in. Has there ever been another time a #2 team has dropped in the polls when they weren't playing? I can't remember it. I could see them dropping in the BCS because another team beat someone who was really good and that changed their computer ranking or strength of schedule, but I think that was very blatant poll manipulation.

FatHobbit;518190 wrote:I didn't care if UM made the title game or not, but the week after the game they didn't fall far enough to keep them out. Everybody started talking about how there was going to be a rematch and if anybody really wanted that. The next week they didn't play, but somehow managed to drop enough in the polls that they didn't get in. Has there ever been another time a #2 team has dropped in the polls when they weren't playing? I can't remember it. I could see them dropping in the BCS because another team beat someone who was really good and that changed their computer ranking or strength of schedule, but I think that was very blatant poll manipulation.

Take a look back at the polls from 2006. After Michigan lost they dropped to #3 in the coaches poll, only 16 points behind USC and 21 points ahead of Florida. The following week OSU and Michigan sat idol while USC and Florida both won. USC was now ahead of Michigan by 46 points who was ahead of Florida by 40 points. Then on the final Saturday of the season USC inexplicably lost to a not-very-good UCLA team and knocked them out of the title game. Florida on the other hand beat Heisman runner-up Darren McFadden and #8 Arkansas in the SEC championship game to move ahead of Michigan and into the #2 ranking and a spot in the National Title game by only 26 points. So, of the 62 coaches ballots cast that final week, essentially that means that less than half of them had Florida ranked one spot higher than Michigan. Whether it was the impressive win over Arkansas, the fact that Michigan had been idol for two weeks, or a collective consciousness that didn't want to see a rematch in the title game, Florida jumped Michigan in the final poll.

I don't think that there were back room deals going on or late night phone calls being made to ensure that Michigan ended up in the Rose Bowl instead of in Glendale, I just think that enough voters decided they didn't want to see Michigan and Ohio State play for the title because they had already seen it. It wasn't like this sentiment was a new one since USC had been ahead of Michigan in the polls after their loss to Ohio State. Once USC lost though it threw everything off. The team that everyone assumed would be playing in the title game had just been knocked off. It wasn't necessarily that the voters all of the sudden thought that Florida was better than Michigan, it was simply that they wanted to see someone else have a chance against OSU. Since USC was no longer in the running, they went with the next best option and that happened to be Florida.