'100 percent' chance for life on newly found planet...

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CenterBHSFan
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Oct 1, 2010 12:07pm
Can, could and might. Interesting!
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Oct 1, 2010 12:25pm
How is something '100%' chance? 100% means something is. Chance means something is in doubt. Oxymoron?
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Oct 1, 2010 12:44pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;503497 wrote:How is something '100%' chance? 100% means something is. Chance means something is in doubt. Oxymoron?

I look at it this way. They haven't actually been able to observe or prove that there is absolutely life. But they are 100% sure life would form under those conditions. SO they can't definitively state there is life (no direct proof) but life is there (inferring from other evidence).
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SnotBubbles
Oct 1, 2010 1:23pm
It would take 20 years to get there. Why do they even point that out? We do not have the technology to land on Mars...let alone to go to some planets that far away.

We have a confirmation of life on that planet in our lifetime...unless there is intelligent life and they come to us.
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Tiernan
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Oct 1, 2010 1:36pm
^^^
They're already here man
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Oct 1, 2010 2:01pm
It would take us 20 years to get there, plus we dont have the tech to bouce the data back to earth AFTER we got there. So lets do the math, we will prolly send a probe towards that planet in the next 3 years, Im 32 now, add 20 years (if it even gets there at all!) Ill be 50...yea, I dont see me living to 50...so Ill ask God after my Triple Baconator Heart attack if its real or not.
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Oct 1, 2010 2:08pm
Dumb...
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Oct 1, 2010 2:18pm
20 years at the speed of light. Hell, currently it takes us many years to send a satellite into the outer reaches of our solar system. Voyager took a year and a half to reach Jupiter.

Just looked it up, after 33 years, Voyager I is only 0.002 of a light-year from the Sun. In other words, we'll probably never know whether or not this planet has life in our lifetime. To say it is a 100% chance is just asinine.
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jmog
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Oct 1, 2010 2:35pm
It doesn't take 20 years to get there, it would take 20 years if we could travel at the speed of light.

The fastest unmanned spacecraft we have ever made got up to 158,000 miles per hout, the fastest manned spacecraft was just under 25,000 miles per hour.

If we could maintain those speeds the whole time, the fastest we could get an unmanned space craft to this planet is in 85,000 YEARS. If it was a manned space craft, we are talking 537,000 YEARS.

Plus, even if the "probe" sent data back at the speed of light (possible, we do it with all the others) it would take the transmission 20 more years to get back to Earth.

Lets just say we aren't finding out anything about this planet and its "life" for a long time.

Unless someone invents a warp engine that is...

For reference, the speed of light is about 671,000,000 miles per hour.
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Oct 1, 2010 2:46pm
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Oct 1, 2010 2:59pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;503497 wrote:How is something '100%' chance? 100% means something is. Chance means something is in doubt. Oxymoron?

It's more likely just bad math or using incorrect assumptions.
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Oct 1, 2010 3:00pm
Cool. Hope shit there is better than here.
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Oct 1, 2010 3:10pm
It's probably just Jodie Foster's dad.

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Oct 1, 2010 3:23pm
A few things I found interesting...
but they point out that the planet doesn't have a night and day - one side continually faces the star and the other side faces the darkness of space.
So if there is "life" on this planet, chances are it's nothing more than simple celled organisms, which would take us decades to be able to detect! Just because its on the "Goldilocks zone" doesn't make it "habitable"!
While Earth takes 365 days to orbit our star, the sun, Gliese 581g orbits its star in 37 days.
I'd be like 335 years old on that planet!!

Ultimately it's an interesting find, but that's about it for now!
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jmog
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Oct 1, 2010 4:18pm
Yeah, the fact that the planet doesn't rotate makes one side scorching hot and the other side bone cold. I agree, kind of hard for any significant (intelligent) life to survive on a planet like that.
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Oct 1, 2010 4:29pm
jmog;503701 wrote: I agree, kind of hard for any significant (intelligent) life to survive on a planet like that.
Since when has "intelligence" been a requirement for survival? West Virginia has been around for more that a hundred and forty years, you know. :)
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rydawg5
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Oct 1, 2010 5:52pm
ccrunner609;503748 wrote:I bet humans would destroy that place also.

Or say they are destroying it when they really don't know if they are or are not.
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Oct 1, 2010 10:34pm
jmog;503615 wrote:It doesn't take 20 years to get there, it would take 20 years if we could travel at the speed of light.

The fastest unmanned spacecraft we have ever made got up to 158,000 miles per hout, the fastest manned spacecraft was just under 25,000 miles per hour.

If we could maintain those speeds the whole time, the fastest we could get an unmanned space craft to this planet is in 85,000 YEARS. If it was a manned space craft, we are talking 537,000 YEARS.

Plus, even if the "probe" sent data back at the speed of light (possible, we do it with all the others) it would take the transmission 20 more years to get back to Earth.

Lets just say we aren't finding out anything about this planet and its "life" for a long time.

Unless someone invents a warp engine that is...

For reference, the speed of light is about 671,000,000 miles per hour.

Agreed. I'm of the camp that there has to be some other life in the vastness of the universe, but the chances of us ever finding 100% proof of it are next to nil. Unless we find some life in our own solar system, the distances are so vast that we're never going to get that close encounter, unless they come to this planet, which I don't think has happened or would ever happen.
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Oct 3, 2010 11:09am
RedRider1;503644 wrote:It's probably just Jodie Foster's dad.


HAHAHAHAHHA
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Oct 3, 2010 8:44pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;503497 wrote:How is something '100%' chance? 100% means something is. Chance means something is in doubt. Oxymoron?
A coin with both sides heads has a 100% chance of being heads.
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Zombaypirate
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Oct 3, 2010 8:47pm
Bigred1995;503654 wrote:A few things I found interesting...

So if there is "life" on this planet, chances are it's nothing more than simple celled organisms, which would take us decades to be able to detect! Just because its on the "Goldilocks zone" doesn't make it "habitable"!

I'd be like 335 years old on that planet!!

Ultimately it's an interesting find, but that's about it for now!

There will be temperate zones even on a planet like that. Even if there are simple organisms it shows that there is life in other places. With the vast amount of stars and planets in our universe I do not find that amazing. I expect it.
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Be Nice
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Oct 3, 2010 8:56pm
^the movie ET has already proven that. This thread is old news.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 4, 2010 5:13pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;503497 wrote:How is something '100%' chance? 100% means something is. Chance means something is in doubt. Oxymoron?
Exactly what I thought.
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bo shemmy3337
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Oct 4, 2010 9:01pm
The idea of placing 100% next to the word chance makes no sense to me. A simple yes there is a chance of life would be sufficient. Because we only know what it takes us and our animals to survive, there is always some chance that there is life somewhere that does not need water or food. There is always a chance. This place is just similar to earth so there for it is exciting IMO. Either way the wording in the article is aimed to get people to click on it to get hits.