ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Sep 24, 2010 11:31am
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5609817
Basically, they expanded the reasons that allow them to call a T, all are directed at players bitching.
Basically, they expanded the reasons that allow them to call a T, all are directed at players bitching.
Now, they have tried this before and it doesn't work, because god forbid something be called on a superstar (the whiniest ones of all). Will it work? Will they call it?At the referees' annual meeting in Jersey City, N.J., on Thursday, the league announced the guidelines for technical fouls will expand to include "overt" player reactions to referee calls.
Referees have been instructed to call a technical for:
• Players making aggressive gestures, such as air punches, anywhere on the court.
• Demonstrative disagreement, such as when a player incredulously raises his hands, or smacks his own arm to demonstrate how he was fouled.
• Running directly at an official to complain about a call.
• Excessive inquiries about a call, even in a civilized tone.
In addition, referees have been instructed to consider calling technicals on players who use body language to question or demonstrate displeasure, or say things like, "Come on!" They can also consider technicals for players who "take the long path to the official", walking across the court to make their case.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Sep 24, 2010 11:43am
This is dumb. There will be like 4 techs a game.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Sep 24, 2010 1:39pm
Good. They are the whiniest bunch of crybabies in all sports. I hope they enforce this strongly in the preseason so they might actually play without the dramatics once the regular season rolls around.
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Sep 24, 2010 1:41pm
Better raise the technicals allowed before ejection limit....
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Sep 24, 2010 1:43pm
This is great if enforced (which I have my doubts about). The crying after fouls is TERRIBLE in the NBA. One of my biggest pet peeves about the game is how much they complain.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 24, 2010 2:40pm
A step in the right direction, but the superstars are still too protected and this rule will not apply to them.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 24, 2010 2:46pm
I may be in the minority here, but I think its a bit too much. I can understand T'ing up a player for verbal abuse, but for whining? Come on, this isn't AAU youth basketball. These are grown men playing professional basketball. Granted, a lot of them do not act like grown men, but if they want to create an immature image of themselves then let them whine.
What's next? Are refs going to start T'ing up players for talking trash to each other?
What's next? Are refs going to start T'ing up players for talking trash to each other?
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Sep 24, 2010 3:09pm
If you can get a T for sitting on the bench and smiling, I'm sure they can T up a player who acts like he just got shot and charges at the refs complaining.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 24, 2010 3:17pm
Pretty much guarantees Kobe will be only playing about half a game.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Sep 24, 2010 3:55pm
Lebron won't be playing very many full games either if they actually enforce this on the superstars. Ha, fat chance of that.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Sep 24, 2010 8:56pm
Tim Duncan will not like this.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Sep 24, 2010 9:38pm
sleeper;495626 wrote:Pretty much guarantees Kobe will be only playing about half a game.
That would probally make it more fair to the rest of the league and give the other teams a little hope of dethroning the back to back Finals MVP and Champion....................but on 2nd thought it wouldn't matter half of Kobe is still better than anyone else in the league.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 24, 2010 10:34pm
Tim Duncan may not get to play and that is fine.....almost every call made on many of the stars are questioned.....no other sport even close to the whining......I hope they really follow through.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Sep 24, 2010 10:36pm
Skyhook79;495893 wrote:That would probally make it more fair to the rest of the league and give the other teams a little hope of dethroning the back to back Finals MVP and Champion....................but on 2nd thought it wouldn't matter half of Kobe is still better than anyone else in the league.
Kobe Bryant: ZERO rings without whining
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Sep 24, 2010 10:58pm
^^^^that stat might be universal
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Sep 24, 2010 11:22pm
Come on sleeper.. we all know you can do better than that.
Heelz
Posts: 780
Sep 25, 2010 6:44am
Sleeper: ZERO posts without looking like a douche.....and you can take that to the bank.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Sep 25, 2010 8:16am
I hope this is enforced exactly as it is written.
I would also like to see technical fouls be added to their personal fouls total.
I would also like to see technical fouls be added to their personal fouls total.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Sep 25, 2010 11:00am
It will not change anything and will only open the door for a ref to make a huge, game-changing call in an important game without being punished for doing so.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 25, 2010 11:46am
GOONx19;496315 wrote:It will not change anything and will only open the door for a ref to make a huge, game-changing call in an important game without being punished for doing so.
Good point. I read Tim Donaghy's book, and he explained how refs made calls based on their personal bias (i.e. they hate rasheed, they call more fouls on him). This rule will just allow refs to make more calls based off their personal bias.
On a side note, LeBron was the first player I thought about when I saw this thread. Even as a Cleveland fan his whining was annoying. If this rule is really enforced, LeBron won't be seeing the 2nd half as well.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Sep 25, 2010 12:14pm
GOONx19;496315 wrote:It will not change anything and will only open the door for a ref to make a huge, game-changing call in an important game without being punished for doing so.
That's what I was thinking. There is too much whiny bitchitis in the NBA and I would be in favor of this...if I had more faith in NBA officiating. Right now, though, I'm having this nightmarish vision of Joey Crawford utterly ruining a playoff game (or attractive match-up) on national TV because his incompetence has been doubled by giving him even more reasons to blow his whistle.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Sep 25, 2010 3:12pm
All it takes is 1 week of this ACTUALLY being enforced for guys to stop the whining. Not sure itll happen though.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 14, 2010 5:37pm
So far, the players are whining worse after the games, haha.Laley23;496504 wrote:All it takes is 1 week of this ACTUALLY being enforced for guys to stop the whining. Not sure itll happen though.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 14, 2010 6:06pm
ts1227;519630 wrote:So far, the players are whining worse after the games, haha.
I dont mind that. I still want to see it in the regular season though.
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cview
Posts: 351
Oct 20, 2010 9:45am
Stupid ass rule. They react to calls. IMO, the only reason we fans find it irritating is because we can actually see it when an NBA player bitches about a call or no call. Unless it's close up, nobody can see an NFL player bitching, nobody can see a catcher bitching about the strike zone, etc.