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Sep 15, 2010 10:37 PM
Spent a few years with Holmgren in Green Bay from 1992-94.

I think this is a possibility if they finish 6-10 or worse.
Sep 15, 2010 10:37pm
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Sep 16, 2010 1:09 AM
Please let this happen, pay him whatever he wants
Sep 16, 2010 1:09am
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Sep 16, 2010 1:20 AM
What we should do is keep changing coaches. That is how you create continuity for sure. Granted I would be a fan of Gruden..Won't happen though.
Sep 16, 2010 1:20am
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Sep 16, 2010 1:50 AM
CinciX12;485596 wrote:What we should do is keep changing coaches. That is how you create continuity for sure. Granted I would be a fan of Gruden..Won't happen though.

Gruden is actually a good coach
Sep 16, 2010 1:50am
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Sep 16, 2010 7:40 AM
This has been out there for quite awhile now. There was speculation that if Mangini was fired that Gruden would have been his replacement this year. My biggest fear about Gruden is that he's a piss poor judge of QB's. He thought Brady Quinn was good and I'm pretty sure he's sold on Colt McCoy as an NFL QB too.
Sep 16, 2010 7:40am
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Sep 16, 2010 8:56 AM
^ Hopefully Heckertt and Holmgren could steer him in the right direction there.
Sep 16, 2010 8:56am
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Sep 16, 2010 9:02 AM
OneBuckeye;485727 wrote:^ Hopefully Heckertt and Holmgren could steer him in the right direction there.


Who the guys that thought he was worthy of a 3rd round pick?
Sep 16, 2010 9:02am
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Sep 16, 2010 9:03 AM
Week one into the season, wow. Gruden shit the bed in TB, dismantled a great defense and never assembled the great offense he had in Oakland. His love for mediocre to terrible QBs is well documented.

While we're on the subject of rumors and speculation, Bill Cowher's house in Strongsville told me he heard from LBJ's penthouse in NY that Holmgren is going to step down and be our coach next season if Erica Womangini is fired.
Sep 16, 2010 9:03am
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Sep 16, 2010 9:18 AM
Commander of Awesome;485733 wrote:Week one into the season, wow. Gruden shit the bed in TB, dismantled a great defense and never assembled the great offense he had in Oakland. His love for mediocre to terrible QBs is well documented.

While we're on the subject of rumors and speculation, Bill Cowher's house in Strongsville told me he heard from LBJ's penthouse in NY that Holmgren is going to step down and be our coach next season if Erica Womangini is fired.

Funny that you mention Cowher. I think he will be back coaching in 2011 (not with the Browns). The timing is right.

There were a lot of circumstances going on in his personal life that prohibited him from returning to the sidelines. Everyone thought he wanted to stay home to watch his girls in athletics, etc but I have a feeling that the reason he was passing up these opportunities was his wife's illness. I think she was probably ill for an extended period of time. Not to sound insensitive but since she passed away, he really has nothing prohibiting him from returning to coaching if the offer is right.
Sep 16, 2010 9:18am
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Sep 16, 2010 11:49 AM
I think it's funny you Clowns fans talking new coach after 1 game. You fans are just as pathetic as the organization you root for. hahahaaaaa
Sep 16, 2010 11:49am
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Sep 16, 2010 12:14 PM
I see Gruden staying put on ESPN. When he was coaching he was a work a holic, now he has a pretty easy schedule and makes good money. If he does come back to coaching I don't see him coming to Cleveland. He only returns to coaching to feed his ego, and under the current environment, his ego doesn't get fed in Cleveland. Big Mike takes the credit for any onfield field success, and the head coach is an afterthought, when things go right. When they lose it is all on the coach. Gruden is smart enough not to walk into that situation.
Sep 16, 2010 12:14pm
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Sep 16, 2010 12:18 PM
Art Modell;485918 wrote:I think it's funny you Clowns fans talking new coach after 1 game. You fans are just as pathetic as the organization you root for. hahahaaaaa

This might be your best post YET, enema. The FUCKING thread was started by a STEELER fan....durr hurr....
Sep 16, 2010 12:18pm
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Sep 16, 2010 1:08 PM
DeyDurkie5;485590 wrote:Please let this happen, pay him whatever he wants

That's what you said about Holmgren.
Sep 16, 2010 1:08pm
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Sep 16, 2010 1:15 PM
Art Modell;486006 wrote:That's what you said about Holmgren.

I think it's funny you steelers fans are judging holmgren on 3 months of work hahahhaaaaaaa haaa haaa haaaa hahaha haaaa haaaa haa haaa haaa haa
Sep 16, 2010 1:15pm
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Sep 16, 2010 1:17 PM
DeyDurkie5;486015 wrote:I think it's funny you steelers fans are judging holmgren on 3 months of work hahahhaaaaaaa haaa haaa haaaa hahaha haaaa haaaa haa haaa haaa haa

Thank you! Beat me to the punch. If this team is still a clusterfuck in 2-3 years, THEN say something about Holmgren's work.
Sep 16, 2010 1:17pm
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Sep 16, 2010 1:58 PM
Real nice job with the QB situation.
Sep 16, 2010 1:58pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:09 PM
Art Modell;486073 wrote:Real nice job with the QB situation.

301 posts of complete shit.
Sep 16, 2010 2:09pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:21 PM
I guess we were supposed to take Tim Tebow with the 7th pick in the draft...smh
Sep 16, 2010 2:21pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:26 PM
I'm saying your QB situation is no better than last year. Go Holmgren!!!!
Sep 16, 2010 2:26pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:28 PM
Art Modell;486125 wrote:I'm saying your QB situation is no better than last year. Go Holmgren!!!!

Oh thats what you were saying? I had no idea. /sarcasm
Sep 16, 2010 2:28pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:34 PM
But the QB situation IS better than it was last year. Quinn & DA had no clue what they were doing and no semblance of leadership. Delhomme is FAR from being the gunslinger that he was in his prime but I'll take him & Wallace over those two clowns ANY day of the week.

Riddle me THIS, Einstein. What would YOU have done to rectify the situation?

Can't get McNabb because he told Heckert he wanted to play for a team that he (McNabb) thought could contend this year. Wanna trade away the whole draft and part of next years to move up to get Bradford? Don't think so.

Since Holmgren is such a buffoon, what would YOU have done, oh great armchair GM?
Sep 16, 2010 2:34pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:46 PM
All I know is Seattle was a SuperBowl team and when Holmgren left, they were no better than the Clowns. But you Clown fans think he is the Guru of all football knowledge. Good luck with that.


p.s. Am I going to get an ''INFRACTION'' for this reply too?
Sep 16, 2010 2:46pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:48 PM
Art Modell;486166 wrote: p.s. Am I going to get an ''INFRACTION'' for this reply too?

Not if it's the same refs that oversaw the Pittsburgh/Seattle Super Bowl and know you're a Steelers fan.

Oh, and as I thought, no substance to your post, just flapping your gums as usual.
Sep 16, 2010 2:48pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:58 PM
I haven't given up hope on Mangini but if we do make a change it will probably come down to John Fox or Gruden IMO. We would have to get a great offensive mind to go with either of those guys.
Sep 16, 2010 2:58pm
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Sep 16, 2010 2:59 PM
Is Holmgren still whining about the beating he took in that game? He got outcoached and his team got outplayed. He had to blame it on the refs to save face.
Sep 16, 2010 2:59pm