
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Nov 24, 2009 12:28pm
Just reflecting on the end of the 2009 season, and Ohio State's 5 consecutive games of 225+ rushing yards, and the tailback situation for 2010.
Returning:
Herron & Saine: dependable, experienced, tough, never fumble. Not flashy and not Beanie Wells by any stretch, but get it done, especially the last 5 games.
Jordan Hall and Jermil Martin: Not much experience or playing time, but I liked what I saw from these guys, especially Hall.
Incoming:
Jamaal Berry & Carlos Hyde: Highly touted- any chance these guys see the field next year?
Rod Smith: big-time recruit from Indy. Looks like a beast from all indications
That's seven names- who gets the most carries, and who (if anyone) redshirts or transfers?
Returning:
Herron & Saine: dependable, experienced, tough, never fumble. Not flashy and not Beanie Wells by any stretch, but get it done, especially the last 5 games.
Jordan Hall and Jermil Martin: Not much experience or playing time, but I liked what I saw from these guys, especially Hall.
Incoming:
Jamaal Berry & Carlos Hyde: Highly touted- any chance these guys see the field next year?
Rod Smith: big-time recruit from Indy. Looks like a beast from all indications
That's seven names- who gets the most carries, and who (if anyone) redshirts or transfers?

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Nov 24, 2009 12:31pm
This is what I think the carries will look like next year.
Zoom - 35%
Boom - 35%
Hall - 15%
Berry- 15%
Smith-0%
Rod Smith redshirts... slim chance of Hall redshirting IMO. Martin should move back to FB there is no room for him to carry the ball in a non cleanup role. Also Hyde redshirts or moves into a FB role.
Zoom - 35%
Boom - 35%
Hall - 15%
Berry- 15%
Smith-0%
Rod Smith redshirts... slim chance of Hall redshirting IMO. Martin should move back to FB there is no room for him to carry the ball in a non cleanup role. Also Hyde redshirts or moves into a FB role.

thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Nov 24, 2009 12:34pm
They will certainly have some depth. For some reason Tressel is very loyal to Herron (although I don't get it), so he will again get the bulk of the carries. I really don't see anything changing for next year other than Hall or someone else making getting a couple more carries a game.

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Nov 24, 2009 12:53pm
Also injuries will play a big role. If Hall gets injured and is not 100% for several weeks he will get a red shirt... just like berry did this year. And if zoom or boom get injured Maybe then Hyde or Rod might get some 3rd or 4th string carries.
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ck9
Posts: 20
Nov 24, 2009 1:44pm
Jordan Hall needs to get more carries. I know he's a little on the small side, but he hits the hole quicker and is more elusive than Boom or Zoom.

Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Nov 24, 2009 6:27pm
I wish they could find some carries for Rod Smith, for a big guy he can move and has a lot of power once he gets going.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Nov 24, 2009 7:20pm
1. Herron/Saine
2. Berry (was going to get early PT before injury, Tressel talked about him all the time).
3. Hall
I doubt anyone of the RB's will unseat Boren at FB, that kid has been very tough this year and is built like a FB.
Martin might as well transfer. Unless a guy or two go down or he just impresses the hell out of Tressel, Smith will redshirt.
2. Berry (was going to get early PT before injury, Tressel talked about him all the time).
3. Hall
I doubt anyone of the RB's will unseat Boren at FB, that kid has been very tough this year and is built like a FB.
Martin might as well transfer. Unless a guy or two go down or he just impresses the hell out of Tressel, Smith will redshirt.

Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Nov 24, 2009 10:38pm
All I've heard from well...everywhere...is that Rod Smith is primed to be the next stud back at OSU. He seems to have all the tools. I know with him, Berry, and Hyde in the backfield the next several years may make it awefully fun to be a Buckeye, if we can sustain a decent line to block for them.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 24, 2009 10:53pm
No chance Hall redshirts w/o a season ending injury.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Nov 24, 2009 11:04pm
OSU's line isn't "decent"? Five straight games over 225 yards rushing and they are young. With all of the nicks and flu this season a lot of linemen have gotten experience. Nine different players who return for next season have started at least one game.Red_Skin_Pride wrote: All I've heard from well...everywhere...is that Rod Smith is primed to be the next stud back at OSU. He seems to have all the tools. I know with him, Berry, and Hyde in the backfield the next several years may make it awefully fun to be a Buckeye, if we can sustain a decent line to block for them.
You can never have too many Tailbacks. Ohio State has been very lucky since Tressel has been here, some nicks but no serious multiple injuries at the position.
Hyde is similar to Beanie, Smith is more like Eddie George. If they play it will be in the I Formation with a Fullback in front of them.
Berry and Jordon are more suited for running out of the Spread Formation.
Boom and Zoom are both versatile enough to do either. That and their experience will get them 90% of the carries next year, whether it's the I Formation or the Spread.
Martin will never take another hand off at the tailback position, unless both Saine and Herron get injured before or during the Rose Bowl.

dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 24, 2009 11:44pm
We have depth at this position, which is always good. Boom and Saine turned it on at the end of the regular season this year. Hopefully they have a great bowl game performance to catapult into a national title campaign in 2010!

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 24, 2009 11:54pm
I'm trying to remember the last time we were thin at RB.... for some reason I'm thinking the only healthy guys we had at one time were Beanie, Mo Wells and Saine....
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Nov 24, 2009 11:56pm
Not in the past 5 games he hasn't.ck9 wrote: Jordan Hall needs to get more carries. I know he's a little on the small side, but he hits the hole quicker and is more elusive than Boom or Zoom.

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 24, 2009 11:57pm
I don't think any of those guys has gotten any carries since Minnesota...
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Nov 24, 2009 11:58pm
Herron will not get "the bulk of the carries". Saine and Herron will split the carries 50-50.thedynasty1998 wrote: They will certainly have some depth. For some reason Tressel is very loyal to Herron (although I don't get it), so he will again get the bulk of the carries. I really don't see anything changing for next year other than Hall or someone else making getting a couple more carries a game.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Nov 25, 2009 12:02am
nonsensicaldarbypitcher22 wrote: I don't think any of those guys has gotten any carries since Minnesota...

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 25, 2009 12:05am
I meant aside from Saine and Herron...

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Nov 25, 2009 7:52am
I think a nagging Hamstring will do it.... just like it happend to Berry. They screwed the pooch with Saine, trying to get him back too fast from a hamstring injury and prolonging the injury. Meanwhile he was terrible at that time. I think the staff learned their lesson.se-alum wrote: No chance Hall redshirts w/o a season ending injury.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 25, 2009 8:54am
^^^You're making an injury prediction?? Not sure I've ever heard of that.

Thunder70
Posts: 748
Nov 25, 2009 9:05am
I would love to see Saine on returns. Never understood why he didn't. Fast and big and, from what i've seen, not a liability to actually field them. Small made me cringe everytime he went to catch one.

BORIStheCrusher
Posts: 1,893
Nov 25, 2009 11:46am
+1. I loved watching him out there, he ran hard every play and didn't stop until he was down. He could be a great back, I hope he gets a lot more playing time.ck9 wrote: Jordan Hall needs to get more carries. I know he's a little on the small side, but he hits the hole quicker and is more elusive than Boom or Zoom.

jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Nov 25, 2009 12:24pm
No matter who gets the most carries, I'm at least excited about having an identity going into 2010. Coming into this year, no one knew if OSU was going to be primarily a passing or running team. Five straight games of 225+ yards, with really no big-time back carrying the load, sets up well for next year.
If Pryor improves as a passer, that bodes well for the Buckeyes.
If Pryor improves as a passer, that bodes well for the Buckeyes.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Nov 25, 2009 12:40pm
Saine>Herron

Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Nov 25, 2009 2:36pm
Dude, relax. Reread my post. I said "sustain". That means we already have a decent line, now we need to maintain, or sustain that in the next several years.Big Gain wrote:OSU's line isn't "decent"? Five straight games over 225 yards rushing and they are young. With all of the nicks and flu this season a lot of linemen have gotten experience. Nine different players who return for next season have started at least one game.Red_Skin_Pride wrote: All I've heard from well...everywhere...is that Rod Smith is primed to be the next stud back at OSU. He seems to have all the tools. I know with him, Berry, and Hyde in the backfield the next several years may make it awefully fun to be a Buckeye, if we can sustain a decent line to block for them.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Nov 25, 2009 9:24pm
My point was at this juncture the O-line is better than "decent". I think they are better than "adequate, fair or passable".
I can't imagine why anyone would want Saine or Herron to get 90% of the carries in a game. Both are injury prone and neither has shown any reason they could handle 20+ carries a game.
I can't imagine why anyone would want Saine or Herron to get 90% of the carries in a game. Both are injury prone and neither has shown any reason they could handle 20+ carries a game.