
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Aug 31, 2010 8:41pm
The NCAA ruled today that because he was dismissed from Oregon, Jeremiah Masoli will not be able to play this year. Houston Nutt has said he will appeal the decision.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5516909
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5516909

j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Aug 31, 2010 9:08pm
Good. Shouldn't benefit from finding a loophole. If he wasn't a knucklehead to begin with he'd still be in Eugene.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Aug 31, 2010 9:20pm
"I'm just shocked and disappointed," Masoli said. "I've done everything I can to follow the rules."
LOL @ this statement.
LOL @ this statement.

grodt
Posts: 1,588
Sep 1, 2010 8:39am
bases_loaded;467561 wrote:"I'm just shocked and disappointed," Masoli said. "I've done everything I can to follow the rules."
LOL @ this statement.
Well he's right in that statement. It's following the law that appears to have him baffled.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 1, 2010 9:15am
^^^LOL...I wonder if he'll try and go the 1AA route now--or is too late??
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Sep 1, 2010 10:09am
j_crazy;467536 wrote:Good. Shouldn't benefit from finding a loophole. If he wasn't a knucklehead to begin with he'd still be in Eugene.
Why? He wouldn't be the first, and certainly wouldn't be the last.

thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 1, 2010 10:43am
I have mixed feelings on this. Although he screwed up and this is probably the right decision, each University has different rules of conduct and just because he was dismissed at Oregon doesn't mean he would have necessarily been dismissed at a school like Cincinnati or Ole Miss.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Sep 1, 2010 11:27am
Yeah, this is an odd one. I mean, a waiver is at the NCAA's discretion, so I guess its their decision. But, anytime you start making up rules or talking about "intent" of a rule then you're pretty much saying that you half-assed it from the beginning and now you're mad that people are taking advantage of it.
The rule has basically two qualifications - you have to be enrolling in a graduate program and your old school can't offer the same graduate program. Correct? He met those - he graduated and he's studying something that he can't study at his old school. He was a student in good standing (just not a player in good standing).
I find the guy to be a giant douche and probably a liar (based on the interview he gave where he tries to make it seem like he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time), but that there isn't a "can't be a giant douche" clause in the rule for the waiver.....until now, maybe.
The rule has basically two qualifications - you have to be enrolling in a graduate program and your old school can't offer the same graduate program. Correct? He met those - he graduated and he's studying something that he can't study at his old school. He was a student in good standing (just not a player in good standing).
I find the guy to be a giant douche and probably a liar (based on the interview he gave where he tries to make it seem like he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time), but that there isn't a "can't be a giant douche" clause in the rule for the waiver.....until now, maybe.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Sep 1, 2010 12:52pm
thedynasty1998;467986 wrote:I have mixed feelings on this. Although he screwed up and this is probably the right decision, each University has different rules of conduct and just because he was dismissed at Oregon doesn't mean he would have necessarily been dismissed at a school like Cincinnati or Ole Miss.
I would hope robbery would be a disqualifier at any university, but sadly would not be surprised if it was not.

thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 1, 2010 2:33pm
enigmaax;468057 wrote:The rule has basically two qualifications - you have to be enrolling in a graduate program and your old school can't offer the same graduate program. Correct? He met those - he graduated and he's studying something that he can't study at his old school. He was a student in good standing (just not a player in good standing).
That's my problem with this. He met the "guidelines" that were set forth as a college graduate pursuing a grad program.
I haven't followed Masoli's situation very closely, but didn't some details come out recently that put him in a more favorable light, in terms of the robbery?
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Sep 1, 2010 2:44pm
thedynasty1998;468298 wrote:That's my problem with this. He met the "guidelines" that were set forth as a college graduate pursuing a grad program.
I haven't followed Masoli's situation very closely, but didn't some details come out recently that put him in a more favorable light, in terms of the robbery?
He did some interview where he said he really didn't take anything and (I think) he didn't know the guy he was with took something but he plead guilty because his attorney said it'd be better for him in the long run (he ran the risk of much greater punishment by trying to fight it in court).
Personally, I found just about every line he said to be the classic failure to take any real responsibility. Good PR, but I've seen enough that I don't really buy it for a second. Doesn't mean he shouldn't try (or even get the opportunity) to go somewhere else, but not really anything different than what thousands of criminals say.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Sep 1, 2010 4:09pm
Glad the NCAA isn't allowing the SEC to thumb its nose at the rules. About time they actually slapped an SEC team for some infraction. Now go find all the shit Urban is doing with the Gators.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Sep 1, 2010 4:16pm
Tiernan;468499 wrote:Glad the NCAA isn't allowing the SEC to thumb its nose at the rules. About time they actually slapped an SEC team for some infraction. Now go find all the shit Urban is doing with the Gators.
You mean the same things that are going on with the Buckeyes?
Last time I checked, neither school was guilty of major infractions but both were guilty of minor infractions.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 3, 2010 3:24pm
Masoli won his appeal and is eligible to play per Joe Schad.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Sep 3, 2010 3:27pm
karen lotz;470754 wrote:Masoli won his appeal and is eligible to play per Joe Schad.
That's the right decision, IMO.
Even if Masoli is doing it to circumvent the rules, you really can't prove that. Because of that, you can only look objectively at the facts. The facts are, he abided by the waiver rules.
What happened at Oregon (with behavior and what not) has no bearing on what should happen at Ole Miss.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Sep 3, 2010 3:30pm
good move

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Sep 3, 2010 4:50pm
Kid is a bad dude, but you can't let that factor into the decision. He graduated, left Oregon enrolled in grad school and still had eligibility. There have been other cases (Ben Mauk) where players were allowed to do this... not sure why Masoli was declined in the first place

thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Sep 4, 2010 8:57am
Curious as to who he appealed to?

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Sep 4, 2010 10:45am
now they just said on college gameday that he has to wait until the 2011-2012 academic year..wtf?

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 4, 2010 10:56am
thedynasty1998;471342 wrote:Curious as to who he appealed to?
NCAA rules oversight committee I think??

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 4, 2010 10:56am
Pick6;471388 wrote:now they just said on college gameday that he has to wait until the 2011-2012 academic year..wtf?
Fowler must not have gotten the updated cue cards. Masoli is eligible to play and will play. He won't start the game.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Sep 4, 2010 11:04am
ESPN doesn't know what they are doing....
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Sep 4, 2010 11:07am
Also, gameday is worse with EA.

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Sep 4, 2010 11:15am
slingshot4ever;471398 wrote:ESPN doesn't know what they are doing....
I don't know how they could have missed that. Half of the people employed by the WWL were tweeting Masoli was eligible within 30 seconds of the appeal being approved. What a joke.

Jughead
Posts: 1,261
Sep 5, 2010 1:46am
All I have to say....JACKSONVILLE STATE laughs at Masoli and Ole Miss.