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jpake1

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Nov 23, 2009 1:09 PM
What coaches do you think will be fired, or at the least, should be fired? Hell, who should become the next coach?

UM RRod: Brian Kelly
ND Weis: Stoops
UG Richt: Harbaugh
KU Mangino: Brent Venables
UL Kragthorpe: Charlie Strong
KSU Martin: Glen Mason, I'd much rather see him back in coaching than hearing him on the B10 Network.

A couple of those are random and pretty much no thought put into them.
Nov 23, 2009 1:09pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:16 PM
IMO, RRod and Richt are going no where. Weis and Mangino are definitely gone.
Nov 23, 2009 1:16pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:19 PM
Kragthorpe has left that Louisville program in shambles. He should be fired right now. I make fun of him all the time

Rich Rod is coming back
Weis= probably gone: Brian Kelly (dark horse how about the UCONN coach who just beat them, he played QB there)
Richt: He'll get another year
Mangina: its a shame that busting some lazy kid's balls is going to be the impetus for his firing
KSU/Bill Martin: Is he really stepping down after one year? I still can't believe Ron Prince got fired there.
Nov 23, 2009 1:19pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:33 PM
Rich Rod will be given one more year. If the win at least 8 games next year he will be given another chance.

I think Weis will be replaced by Brian Kelly
Nov 23, 2009 1:33pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:36 PM
Two for sure imo.

ND: Weis gets replaced by Kelly.
KU: Mangini gets replaced by a young coach.
Nov 23, 2009 1:36pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:38 PM
Kragthorpe was only guilty of trying to change the culture and instill discipline into that program that was lacking under Petrino; unfortunately, it hasn't translated into W's.

I can see Mangino going.

Maybe Rich Brooks will finally ride off into the sunset at Kentucky if the Cats beat the Vols and get to 8 wins
Nov 23, 2009 1:38pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:43 PM
Weis is nearly a certainty...

KSU should really consider keeping Mangino though, before he arrived they were nowhere. He brought them to formidabilty. They just need to ignore the whining skirts and move on, it's football, it isn't Woody smackin' a Clemson player on national TV and it's not a string of incidents like Bob Knight. It's a lousy kids word coming out of a disappointing seasons end...shut up and get in the weight room.
Nov 23, 2009 1:43pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:47 PM
darbypitcher22 wrote: Kragthorpe was only guilty of trying to change the culture and instill discipline into that program that was lacking under Petrino; unfortunately, it hasn't translated into W's.
I am not calling you a liar, but where did you hear this? I know a lot people were predicting Louisville to be good when he first started, and so far he the most wins he has given them in a season is 6. Everytime I watch them all TV, I get reminded of where the program used to be. The current team is a bad football team.
Nov 23, 2009 1:47pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:52 PM
When you watch the broadcasts you see a list of how many players when he started either A) transferred B) Got in trouble and were let go and C) couldn't take the riggors of his program. he let go approx. 20 some odd scholarship players in his first 8 or 9 months on the job
Nov 23, 2009 1:52pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:56 PM
darbypitcher22 wrote: When you watch the broadcasts you see a list of how many players when he started either A) transferred B) Got in trouble and were let go and C) couldn't take the riggors of his program. he let go approx. 20 some odd scholarship players in his first 8 or 9 months on the job
How do we know that the players didn't just find out how terrible he was much sooner than everybody else?

C'mon be a realist man, there is always a mass exit whenever a new coach is brought in. Especially when the replacement is a relative unknown. Often coaches move on without the guys that leave and do just fine. (Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech)

Even if what you said was true, its been 3 yrs. Some of those guys should be replaced by now anyways.
Nov 23, 2009 1:56pm
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Nov 23, 2009 2:05 PM
I don't think Brian Kelly will go to ND.
Nov 23, 2009 2:05pm
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Nov 23, 2009 2:09 PM
I still dont' think Kragthorpe was terrible. He was successful at Tulsa. I think he's found out that recruiting in CUSA isn't the same as it is in the Big East. Again, there are many different factors involved in coaching besides just X's and O's that make a guy successful
Nov 23, 2009 2:09pm
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Nov 23, 2009 2:16 PM
darbypitcher22 wrote: I still dont' think Kragthorpe was terrible. He was successful at Tulsa. I think he's found out that recruiting in CUSA isn't the same as it is in the Big East. Again, there are many different factors involved in coaching besides just X's and O's that make a guy successful
yeah. Like recruiting. Which Kragthorpe hasn't been doing
Nov 23, 2009 2:16pm
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Nov 23, 2009 2:23 PM
Richt and RRod are ok.

Al Groh might get axed at Virginia, Charlie Strong was the first name being thrown around. I wish the Gators could keep him, but at least now we have McCarney to plug in.
Nov 23, 2009 2:23pm
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Nov 23, 2009 2:39 PM
RRod and Richt will be back IMO. If I was an AD, they'd be gone. I just don't see a bright future with those programs in the very near future. I don't think RRod will get UM back to where they should be. I also think Richt has UG on the downfall. I forgot about Groh. They should hire a top assisant from a top program. Kirby Smart and Charlie Strong would be good choices.
Nov 23, 2009 2:39pm
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Nov 23, 2009 2:59 PM
Emmett Brown wrote: Rich Rod will be given one more year. If the win at least 8 games next year he will be given another chance.

I think Weis will be replaced by Brian Kelly
bingo :cool:
Nov 23, 2009 2:59pm
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OldDanTucker

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Nov 23, 2009 3:03 PM
Brian Kelly has said several times that he is staying at UC, I don't see him leaving for ND. As a UM fan I hope they get someone that sucks as bad as fatboy.
Nov 23, 2009 3:03pm
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Nov 23, 2009 3:25 PM
What do you expect a coach to say during the season when his team is undefeated? He may or may not leave, but never listen to what a coach says during the season.
Nov 23, 2009 3:25pm
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Nov 23, 2009 4:40 PM
I understand that but in this situation would you rather coach at a school that is going to demand BCS games every year and that needs alot of work or a school that you know you will get in a BCS game almost every year and be god of the campus? Right now if im Brian Kelley I stay at UC for a couple more years
Nov 23, 2009 4:40pm
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Nov 23, 2009 4:53 PM
I don't remember Petrino having a lot of discipline problems when he was at Louisville (if he did, somebody link an article or something). He left a team that had been a 12 game winner and a BCS bowl winner. Kragthorp's failures are all on himself. If there were players that Petrino had in line, and Kragthorp couldn't keep in line, that's his problem too.
Nov 23, 2009 4:53pm
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Nov 23, 2009 5:20 PM
Mangina: its a shame that busting some lazy kid's balls is going to be the impetus for his firing
The things he said(if true) are grounds for being fired in my book.
Nov 23, 2009 5:20pm
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Nov 23, 2009 5:41 PM
I still don't understand/have heard everything he said.

It takes a while for a coach to establish a recruting base in a new place as well; Tulsa, Oklahoma, Nebraska/Texas are much different than KY, IN, and OH
Nov 23, 2009 5:41pm
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Nov 23, 2009 6:14 PM
se-alum wrote:
The things he said(if true) are grounds for being fired in my book.
Kansas is having a rough season and that is certainly a large part of the problem. But there is also alot of negativity going on at Kansas due to this controversy with this punk kid.
Nov 23, 2009 6:14pm