wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Aug 4, 2010 11:02pm
Who do you think is the REAL home run king??
My answer, Bonds. "Everyone" was juicing, I don't blame him.
My answer, Bonds. "Everyone" was juicing, I don't blame him.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Aug 4, 2010 11:04pm
As a Braves fan, I say Bonds. Roids or not, he was unreal.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Aug 4, 2010 11:17pm
Easy.....Bonds. Facts are facts - those baseballs went out of the park.
MrPoke
Posts: 348
Aug 4, 2010 11:28pm
"REAL" homerun king is Bonds. Pitchers were and are juicing so you can't blame anyone in the whole "era."
i'm still waiting for proof to come out that all of the big names were on something, really wouldn't surprise me.
i'm still waiting for proof to come out that all of the big names were on something, really wouldn't surprise me.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Aug 5, 2010 5:53am
I am a throwback guy....I think all these stats from the last 20 yrs should be thrown out because of all the juicing.
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Swamp Fox
Posts: 2,218
Aug 5, 2010 6:53am
We have gone from an era when practically anyone that carried a bat to the plate could hit one into another solar system, to an era where pitchers are throwing one and two hitters as a regular course of action. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cy Young award this year goes to a pitcher named undecided.
My problem is that there have been so many players implicated and "tell all" books written, that to be honest, I can't always remember who is suspected and who isn't. It won't matter anyway because by this time tomorrow someone else will tell on somebody else and be on Oprah or Ellen describing the sordid details. Therefore, quite awhile ago I just gave up trying to figure it out and if a player hits the ball out of the park and it's in fair territory, I'm counting them all the same.
My problem is that there have been so many players implicated and "tell all" books written, that to be honest, I can't always remember who is suspected and who isn't. It won't matter anyway because by this time tomorrow someone else will tell on somebody else and be on Oprah or Ellen describing the sordid details. Therefore, quite awhile ago I just gave up trying to figure it out and if a player hits the ball out of the park and it's in fair territory, I'm counting them all the same.
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Swamp Fox
Posts: 2,218
Aug 5, 2010 6:58am
We have gone from an era when practically anyone that carried a bat to the plate could hit one into another solar system to an era where pitchers pitchers are throwing one and two hitters as a regular course of action. i wouldn't be surprised if the Cy Young award this year goes to a pitcher named undecided.
My problem is that there have been so many players implicated and "tell all" books written, that to be honest, I can't always remember who is suspected and who isn't. It won't matter anyway because by this time tomorrow someone else will tell on somebody else and be on Oprah or Ellen describing the sordid details. Therefore, quite awhile ago I just gave up trying to figure it out and if a player hits the ball out of the park and it's in fair territory, I'm counting them all the same.
My problem is that there have been so many players implicated and "tell all" books written, that to be honest, I can't always remember who is suspected and who isn't. It won't matter anyway because by this time tomorrow someone else will tell on somebody else and be on Oprah or Ellen describing the sordid details. Therefore, quite awhile ago I just gave up trying to figure it out and if a player hits the ball out of the park and it's in fair territory, I'm counting them all the same.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 5, 2010 8:07am
Aaron..plain and simple....no frikin' asterisk. Ever.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Aug 5, 2010 8:10am
Hammerin' Hank gets my vote as well.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Aug 5, 2010 8:25am
Agreed with Aaron..did it without help.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Aug 5, 2010 8:55am
GoChiefs;442328 wrote:Agreed with Aaron..did it without help.
What about the greenies that Aaron took? There got that out of the way.
I wouldn't mind seeing Bonds MVP's with * also.
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Aug 5, 2010 9:01am
Hank Aaron. Catch a smoke in the dugout...knock one out...catch another smoke. Hank Aaron.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Aug 5, 2010 9:32am
Barry Bonds HR total > Hank Aarons HR total
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Aug 5, 2010 9:39am
Aaron
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Aug 5, 2010 10:24am
I still think Aaron's record is more impressive. Unfortunately, it will be #3 or #4 on the list by 2020. Pujols and Arod will pass both Bonds and Aaron.
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Hulk Smash
Posts: 306
Aug 5, 2010 11:06am
The numbers are what they are.
Bonds is the "real" home run king and will be until somebody hits one more home run than he did.
MLB's all time hits leader and all time home run leader will not be in the HOF...
Bonds is the "real" home run king and will be until somebody hits one more home run than he did.
MLB's all time hits leader and all time home run leader will not be in the HOF...
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Aug 5, 2010 12:01pm
"MLB's all time hits leader and all time home run leader will not be in the HOF... "
Good, I hope it stays that way.
Good, I hope it stays that way.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Aug 5, 2010 12:37pm
I wouldn't be so sure about A-Rod catching Bonds... he's slowing down at a rapid rate the last couple of years.
And the statement above me? You've gotta be kidding. As much as I want the game to be pure and clean, its not going to be and won't ever be, and the baseball writers need to soften their stance on this. Other Halls of Fame (most particularly football) has people who were addicted to drugs(most specifically painkillers), womanizers, and other types in their HOF.
And the statement above me? You've gotta be kidding. As much as I want the game to be pure and clean, its not going to be and won't ever be, and the baseball writers need to soften their stance on this. Other Halls of Fame (most particularly football) has people who were addicted to drugs(most specifically painkillers), womanizers, and other types in their HOF.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Aug 5, 2010 12:51pm
Nate;442435 wrote:I still think Aaron's record is more impressive. Unfortunately, it will be #3 or #4 on the list by 2020. Pujols and Arod will pass both Bonds and Aaron.
If Pujols surpasses Aaron and a roided up Bonds I would be willing to recognize him as the Home Run King. As it stands right now it is still Hank Aaron in my book.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Aug 5, 2010 12:58pm
darbypitcher22;442579 wrote:I wouldn't be so sure about A-Rod catching Bonds... he's slowing down at a rapid rate the last couple of years.
And the statement above me? You've gotta be kidding. As much as I want the game to be pure and clean, its not going to be and won't ever be, and the baseball writers need to soften their stance on this. Other Halls of Fame (most particularly football) has people who were addicted to drugs(most specifically painkillers), womanizers, and other types in their HOF.
It may not be totally pure or ever will be but they certainly shouldn't put people into the Hall of Fame who have ADMITTED cheating or ADMITTED to breaking the most sacred rule of baseball.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Aug 5, 2010 1:03pm
Bonds is king.
BlueDevil11
Posts: 1,911
Aug 5, 2010 3:32pm
Aaron
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Aug 5, 2010 4:14pm
Aaron hit 755 roid free
Bonds had 433 by age 33 and at age 36 began getting huge....I bet he would've gotten near 600 with the smaller ballparks and watered down pitching.
Bonds is the HR king...Aaron's 755 is far more impressive
Bonds had 433 by age 33 and at age 36 began getting huge....I bet he would've gotten near 600 with the smaller ballparks and watered down pitching.
Bonds is the HR king...Aaron's 755 is far more impressive
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 5, 2010 4:54pm
Hank and its not even debatable.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Aug 5, 2010 5:46pm
Skyhook79;442596 wrote:It may not be totally pure or ever will be but they certainly shouldn't put people into the Hall of Fame who have ADMITTED cheating or ADMITTED to breaking the most sacred rule of baseball.
But people in the football hall of fame have admitted to what they did as well... Michael Irvin was an admitted drug addict and everyone knew it LONG before they went in. Please for once just let it be about the on-field merits