justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jul 29, 2010 10:01pm
Leads the NL in:
BA
HRs
OBP%
SLG%
OPS
3rd in the NL in:
Runs
RBI
Absurd.
BA
HRs
OBP%
SLG%
OPS
3rd in the NL in:
Runs
RBI
Absurd.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jul 29, 2010 10:05pm
He is the truth.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jul 29, 2010 10:06pm
he's having a rediculous year and is still struggling to get respect for it
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 29, 2010 10:08pm
If the Reds beat out the Cards for the Central, does Joey get the MVP?
I really don't see anyone else that can win it other than Albert
I really don't see anyone else that can win it other than Albert
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 29, 2010 10:09pm
It is Vottos MVP to lose.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jul 29, 2010 10:10pm
wildcats20;436259 wrote:If the Reds beat out the Cards for the Central, does Joey get the MVP?
I really don't see anyone else that can win it other than Albert
If the Reds win the Central it will mean that Votto has kept his pace and he will definitely be the MVP.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jul 29, 2010 10:16pm
^^^^
I would hope he would end up being the MVP, but you never know how those baseball writers are going to vote. We've seen how goofy they can be in the past
I would hope he would end up being the MVP, but you never know how those baseball writers are going to vote. We've seen how goofy they can be in the past
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 29, 2010 10:22pm
Right now (still 50+ games left of course and so much can change) Votto is easily the MVP of the NL.
Remember Ryan Howard won the MVP over Pujols and Pujols had better important numbers and his team was in the playoffs and Howard's were not.....the year before Andruw Jones had marginally better numbers on a playoff Braves team and Pujols nipped him for the MVP......so it seems to go both ways.
If Pujols is very close to Votto's numbers.....Pujols will win......right now he's not that close.
What may be more amazing is that Miguel Cabrera and Josh Hamilton have better numbers than Votto.
Remember Ryan Howard won the MVP over Pujols and Pujols had better important numbers and his team was in the playoffs and Howard's were not.....the year before Andruw Jones had marginally better numbers on a playoff Braves team and Pujols nipped him for the MVP......so it seems to go both ways.
If Pujols is very close to Votto's numbers.....Pujols will win......right now he's not that close.
What may be more amazing is that Miguel Cabrera and Josh Hamilton have better numbers than Votto.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jul 29, 2010 10:25pm
Cabrera and Hamilton are absolutely raping the ball. Its insane every time I turn on Texas or Detroit these guys are crushing the ball
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 29, 2010 10:37pm
Votto has separated himself from Albert in the last few weeks. The numbers were neck and neck almost the entire year, but Votto has Pujols whipped in almost every category. Things can change, but for right now, it's not really a debate between the two.
Adrian Gonzalez, given the park he plays in AND the fact that his supporting lineup is comparably bad to any other contender, should garner consideration if the Padres make the playoffs.
Adrian Gonzalez, given the park he plays in AND the fact that his supporting lineup is comparably bad to any other contender, should garner consideration if the Padres make the playoffs.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Jul 29, 2010 10:50pm
MVP is his. I dont see how unless someone else goes off or he starts slumping someone else gets it.
That being said, no respect will be given to the Reds.
That being said, no respect will be given to the Reds.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jul 29, 2010 11:19pm
CinciX12;436315 wrote:MVP is his. I dont see how unless someone else goes off or he starts slumping someone else gets it.
That being said, no respect will be given to the Reds.
I think they are getting some respect from the national media. A few people had picked them to win the division before the season. I think most of the "lack of respect" stuff is due to the pattern of the past how many years of the Reds getting out of the gates well and then fading around late June leading up to the firesale. Its pretty clear this team is a little different and they will continue to get some more love.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jul 29, 2010 11:26pm
To me, the big question is... How long will Votto be around if he DOES win MVP?
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Jul 29, 2010 11:48pm
At least 3 years until he becomes a free agent I think. He's going to make over 10mil in arbitration though each year.
killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Jul 30, 2010 12:55am
Witness
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 30, 2010 1:28am
darbypitcher22;436293 wrote:Cabrera and Hamilton are absolutely raping the ball. Its insane every time I turn on Texas or Detroit these guys are crushing the ball
Ive been watching the Tigers this year being back in Toledo. Cabrera might hit the ball harder than anyone else in the game. His HRs are rockets, not moon balls. His doubles either hit the wall on the line or are roped over the SS/2B head and because he hits it so hard make it to the wall. Its ridiculous.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jul 30, 2010 1:30am
he and Hamilton hit everything hard, Cano has been that way with a couple of moon shots mixed in as well.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Jul 30, 2010 1:56am
karen lotz;436333 wrote:I think they are getting some respect from the national media. A few people had picked them to win the division before the season. I think most of the "lack of respect" stuff is due to the pattern of the past how many years of the Reds getting out of the gates well and then fading around late June leading up to the firesale. Its pretty clear this team is a little different and they will continue to get some more love.
Thats even what I am still thinking haha. This team slips 10 games out of the wildcard and I'll come running to say I told you so.