Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 22, 2010 2:50pm
See Obama in America we have a court system …and it works
Please send BP an apology for your Unconstitutional Action and Unlawful Behavior…what goes around comes around.
You may have thought you …. tar and feather (kick ass) BP …. But in the end yours will be the trial of true failure
Looks like another trend beginning in the UPSO Administration losing decisions first this one and next Az. ….. can we all spell UPSO FAILURE
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/22/federal-judge-blocks-obamas-offshore-drilling-moratorium-gulf-mexico/#content
Please send BP an apology for your Unconstitutional Action and Unlawful Behavior…what goes around comes around.
You may have thought you …. tar and feather (kick ass) BP …. But in the end yours will be the trial of true failure
Looks like another trend beginning in the UPSO Administration losing decisions first this one and next Az. ….. can we all spell UPSO FAILURE
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/22/federal-judge-blocks-obamas-offshore-drilling-moratorium-gulf-mexico/#content
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fortfan
Posts: 339
Jun 22, 2010 3:03pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill
This could get interesting. I think it's important to keep those jobs in the Gulf! They have suffered enough-the Administration is doing more harm than good with this ban!
This could get interesting. I think it's important to keep those jobs in the Gulf! They have suffered enough-the Administration is doing more harm than good with this ban!
Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
Jun 22, 2010 3:26pm
Doing what is right by this ruling......not bowing to a fringe political group.
Thread Bomber
Posts: 1,851
Jun 22, 2010 3:34pm
activist judges!!!!
activist judges!!!!
activist judges!!!!
activist judges!!!!
activist judges!!!!
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Jun 22, 2010 4:16pm
This will get overturned in a higher court...but this judge and any other judge that upholds this ruling will get to share the blame if something like this happens again
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jun 22, 2010 4:55pm
Doubtful. BHO was wrong and he and this judge know it.gibby08;397500 wrote:This will get overturned in a higher court...
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jun 22, 2010 5:03pm
gibby08;397500 wrote:This will get overturned in a higher court...but this judge and any other judge that upholds this ruling will get to share the blame if something like this happens again
I'll take some of that action. Put me down for $20.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jun 22, 2010 5:27pm
gibby08;397500 wrote:This will get overturned in a higher court...but this judge and any other judge that upholds this ruling will get to share the blame if something like this happens again
Not sure, and if it does, could go all the way to the top.
Think about it for a second, the executive branch pretty much passed a law saying companies can't do x. Since this is not a national security issue, where the executive branch is given a lot of leeway, this provides for some judicial review.
Thinking about it a little more, what the WH should have done is set a 30-45 day ban on all offshore drilling. Then, ask for Congress to pass a law to either extend or modify that. Just saying, the WH bans it for no defined time is a stretch of executive power.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jun 22, 2010 5:31pm
Precisely.ptown_trojans_1;397595 wrote:Just saying, the WH bans it for no defined time is a stretch of executive power.
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slide22
Posts: 330
Jun 22, 2010 6:04pm
nice to see "checks and balances" work every now and then.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jun 22, 2010 7:18pm
Worst case it has to go all the way to the Supreme Court, and they are bought and paid for every bit as much as our politicians are. Right now it has a reliable conservative lean, in the past it has been a liberal lean for long stretches. They serve their corporate masters just like the slime running our government, and if you don't realize that by now then there is little we can do to help you.This will get overturned in a higher court
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 22, 2010 7:31pm
UPSO failure ....
Acronym Finder: UPSO stands for Under-Pressure Shut Off (gas supply valve)
Acronym Finder: UPSO stands for Under-Pressure Shut Off (gas supply valve)
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jun 22, 2010 10:06pm
salazar is going to implement a new moratorium rendering this verdict useless.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jun 22, 2010 10:36pm
Liberals have been irate about the initial ruling all day because Feldman is a Reagan appointee and owns stock in 8 different energy companies according to his last disclosure form. They are screaming conflict of interest, right wing oil schill and all the rest of their litany of attacks.
Salazar is a buffoon, and they will keep playing this game because they are determined not to waste this crisis. John Kerry is supposedly driving the senate crazy with his tone deaf desperation to pass cap and tax climate change legislation, and basically liberals are in a state of disarray. They can't stop the leak, can't get energy legislation, and the courts thwarted their first attempt at stopping drilling. Now there is a mutiny in the military to deal with. It is like a greatest hits of futility for BHO with each passing day.
Salazar is a buffoon, and they will keep playing this game because they are determined not to waste this crisis. John Kerry is supposedly driving the senate crazy with his tone deaf desperation to pass cap and tax climate change legislation, and basically liberals are in a state of disarray. They can't stop the leak, can't get energy legislation, and the courts thwarted their first attempt at stopping drilling. Now there is a mutiny in the military to deal with. It is like a greatest hits of futility for BHO with each passing day.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 22, 2010 11:56pm
Ken Salazar ....... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37841204/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf
This is how Obama helps America and the American public ......Obama and his Administration are fucking worthless, incompetent, socialist asshole......... killing America and Americans
America ever fucking Socialist Democrat should be kicked out of office and this Undocumented Public Servant Obama impeached ……….
This is how Obama helps America and the American public ......Obama and his Administration are fucking worthless, incompetent, socialist asshole......... killing America and Americans
America ever fucking Socialist Democrat should be kicked out of office and this Undocumented Public Servant Obama impeached ……….
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jun 23, 2010 12:21am
Belly35;398035 wrote:Ken Salazar ....... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37841204/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf
This is how Obama helps America and the American public ......Obama and his Administration are fucking worthless, incompetent, socialist asshole......... killing America and Americans
America ever fucking Socialist Democrat should be kicked out of office and this Undocumented Public Servant Obama impeached ……….
The Community Organizer is starting to make Bush look competent as everything he touches has gone to hell recently from the Gulf, to the mutiny happening among his generals, to persistent high unemployment to his openly telling a U.S Senator he is willing to hold the border hostage in order to secure amnesty for 12+ million illegals. It truly is stunning at the lack of outrage being expressed by the electorate as a whole when you consider how big a clusterfuck things are in this country right now. People should be in the streets with pitchforks but BHO is still largely getting a free pass. It is amazing.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jun 23, 2010 3:54am
The press is certainly giving BHO a free pass but even they won't be able to keep their mouths shut much longer. At least one of his military commanders isn't.IggyPride00;398059 wrote:The Community Organizer is starting to make Bush look competent as everything he touches has gone to hell recently from the Gulf, to the mutiny happening among his generals, to persistent high unemployment to his openly telling a U.S Senator he is willing to hold the border hostage in order to secure amnesty for 12+ million illegals. It truly is stunning at the lack of outrage being expressed by the electorate as a whole when you consider how big a clusterfuck things are in this country right now. People should be in the streets with pitchforks but BHO is still largely getting a free pass. It is amazing.
November can't get here soon enough.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 23, 2010 8:59am
And of course now we find out this judge has oil and gas investments.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 23, 2010 9:37am
Hells bells everyone has oil and gas investment... just to name a few ...Car and HomeWebFire;398164 wrote:And of course now we find out this judge has oil and gas investments.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jun 23, 2010 11:30am
WebFire;398164 wrote:And of course now we find out this judge has oil and gas investments.
This has to be THE most lame argument against this judge's decision I've seen.
If you own a 401 K of any kind, chances are almost 100 percent YOU own stock in some type of oil and gas business. That's just the way it is.
Those libs screaming and pounding their fists on tables over this are wasting their time.
The ruling was SOUND and based on LAW.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jun 23, 2010 12:02pm
Writerbuckeye;398412 wrote:This has to be THE most lame argument against this judge's decision I've seen.
If you own a 401 K of any kind, chances are almost 100 percent YOU own stock in some type of oil and gas business. That's just the way it is.
Those libs screaming and pounding their fists on tables over this are wasting their time.
The ruling was SOUND and based on LAW.
Uh, I'm not against it. Just stating that fact. I 100% support the judge's decision.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Jun 23, 2010 12:30pm
WebFire;398520 wrote:Uh, I'm not against it. Just stating that fact. I 100% support the judge's decision.
You just had that Michigan avatar- made Writer overreact a little . . .
But of course we were going to find out what this judge invests in- I'm surprised we haven't heard from the liberal media about a swear word he uttered in 9th grade.
From above article:
Gibbs knows that the ban was for all rigs drilling as low as 500 ft., hardly the "dangerous depths" of the Deepwater Horizon rig. That's equivalent of banning the airline industry and all air travel after the first airplane crash in 50 years.White House press secretary Robert Gibbs countered that "continuing to drill at these depths without knowing what happened does not make any sense and ... potentially puts the safety of those on the rigs and the safety of the environment in the Gulf at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford right now."
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jun 23, 2010 3:44pm
jhay78;398581 wrote:You just had that Michigan avatar- made Writer overreact a little . . .
But of course we were going to find out what this judge invests in- I'm surprised we haven't heard from the liberal media about a swear word he uttered in 9th grade.
From above article:
Gibbs knows that the ban was for all rigs drilling as low as 500 ft., hardly the "dangerous depths" of the Deepwater Horizon rig. That's equivalent of banning the airline industry and all air travel after the first airplane crash in 50 years.
More like it made me go blind for a few seconds...before I puked in the trash can beside my desk.
Otherwise, everything was fine.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Jun 23, 2010 3:57pm
Judge Feldman holds stock in Ocean Energy, Quicksilver Resources (KWK), Prospect Energy, Peabody Energy (BTU), Halliburton (HAL), Pengrowth Energy Trust (PGH), Atlas Energy Resources (ATN) and Parker Drilling (PKD). Are you really trying to suggest that he is no different then anybody elese with a 401K? Other judges with similar holding have recused themselves from ruling on matters involving the oil and gas industries. This is defiantly a conflict of interest.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
Jun 23, 2010 4:11pm
jhay78;398581 wrote:You just had that Michigan avatar- made Writer overreact a little . . .
But of course we were going to find out what this judge invests in- I'm surprised we haven't heard from the liberal media about a swear word he uttered in 9th grade.
From above article:
Gibbs knows that the ban was for all rigs drilling as low as 500 ft., hardly the "dangerous depths" of the Deepwater Horizon rig. That's equivalent of banning the airline industry and all air travel after the first airplane crash in 50 years.
Wow, you are comparing an airplane crash to the worst environmental accident in history? You must be joking. The depth of the well complicates the problem, but the real issue is this is the first time the oil companies have had this type of well with methane hydrates. Also of importance is the fact that the safety equipment and plans are at best inadequate, at worst ineffective. We should not be drilling at any depth until we understand what happened and how do we reduce the odds of this happening again.