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the_system

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Jun 17, 2010 7:16 PM
Orangebloods is reporting that Arkansas has expressed interest in becoming the 11th member of the Big XII. Now Jerry Jones is sticking his nose in it so he doesn't lose the B12 title game at Jerryworld.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1095242
Jun 17, 2010 7:16pm
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Jun 17, 2010 7:39 PM
Makes perfect sense from his perspective. Assuming he talks his old college into petitioning to join the B12, and assuming they're accepted who's the new 12th team? TCU, UTEP, Houston? Considering they have Baylor, its not like you're adding a FBS team who's worse than them.
Jun 17, 2010 7:39pm
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Jun 17, 2010 8:07 PM
I saw this yesterday, doubt they move. The SEC has equal revenue sharing, the Texas10 does not.
http://arkansasnews.com/2010/06/16/long-reaffirms-commitment-to-southeastern-conference/
Long issued a statement through Arkansas’ media relations department saying the Razorbacks had no interest in leaving the 12-team league to join the new-look Big 12, which was trimmed to 10 teams with the departures of Nebraska and Colorado last week.

I also heard Jerry Jones has nowhere near the clout at Ark. he thinks he does. However, if T. Boone Pickens wants to go....
Jun 17, 2010 8:07pm
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Jun 17, 2010 8:07 PM
well...since the rumors are continuing to abound, I'll add this one that I saw on another message board earlier today.

http://www.clickorlando.com/knights/23927913/detail.html


Central Florida and Memphis to the Big East?
Jun 17, 2010 8:07pm
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Jun 17, 2010 8:25 PM
Speedofsand;393221 wrote:I saw this yesterday, doubt they move. The SEC has equal revenue sharing, the Texas10 does not.
http://arkansasnews.com/2010/06/16/long-reaffirms-commitment-to-southeastern-conference/
Long issued a statement through Arkansas’ media relations department saying the Razorbacks had no interest in leaving the 12-team league to join the new-look Big 12, which was trimmed to 10 teams with the departures of Nebraska and Colorado last week.

I also heard Jerry Jones has nowhere near the clout at Ark. he thinks he does. However, if T. Boone Pickens wants to go....

The money thing wouldn't be an issue if the TV deal the Big 12 supposedly has in the works will be giving teams around the same amount (more obviously with Tex, OU, AM) than the SEC.
Jun 17, 2010 8:25pm
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Jun 18, 2010 8:32 AM
the_system;393235 wrote:The money thing wouldn't be an issue if the TV deal the Big 12 supposedly has in the works will be giving teams around the same amount (more obviously with Tex, OU, AM) than the SEC.

It wouldn't be the same if you start adding teams. Quick math says if 7 teams are going to get $17 mil each and you add another team to split up the total ($119 mil), each team's share drops to less than $15 million. One of the major selling points for maintaining the Big XII was that there'd be more money to go around without two extra teams to share.
Jun 18, 2010 8:32am
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Jun 18, 2010 9:30 AM
I could totally see Arkansas leaving the SEC; they get pretty much owned year in and year out in the SEC West and could see TCU being extended an invitation to the Big XII, which would pretty much trump Boise State's move to the MWC as Utah and TCU would both be gone
Jun 18, 2010 9:30am
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Jun 18, 2010 10:28 AM
Teams will only be added if Texas wants them to be added and I don't think that they do. More teams means more pieces of the pie, so less money per team. Unless they can negotiate a TV contract that gives them the same revenue per team for a 12 team conference as they will get now with a 10 team conference they aren't going to expand.
Jun 18, 2010 10:28am
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Jun 18, 2010 10:44 AM
But then don't they lose out on $$$ from a B12 title game which they presumably would believe they'd play in and win every year?
Jun 18, 2010 10:44am
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Jun 18, 2010 11:29 AM
The Equalizer;393921 wrote:But then don't they lose out on $$$ from a B12 title game which they presumably would believe they'd play in and win every year?

Not true. The ESPN deal that saved the Big XII guaranteed the remaining 10 teams the same total payout to the conference that they would have gotten with 12 schools and a title game. ESPN has basically agreed to pay them the same money for less product because ESPN stood to lose out on too much money if these teams moved to the Pac-10 and a Fox owned Pac-10 network was started.

I still have a hard time believing that a new Big XII with Arkansas and say TCU (because let's be honest, there's a better chance of the Pope being Baptist than there is on ND joining the Big XII) would be able to get more money from ESPN than the SEC can.
Jun 18, 2010 11:29am
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Jun 18, 2010 12:50 PM
I've read that Arkansas has always regretted leaving the Texas schools.
TCU makes sense since they were odd man out the first time around.

I could see it.
Jun 18, 2010 12:50pm
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Jun 19, 2010 10:15 AM
atomica600;393222 wrote:well...since the rumors are continuing to abound, I'll add this one that I saw on another message board earlier today.

http://www.clickorlando.com/knights/23927913/detail.html


Central Florida and Memphis to the Big East?

Is the Big East TRYING to lose its BCS auto bid?
Jun 19, 2010 10:15am
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Jun 19, 2010 7:17 PM
Mulva;394816 wrote:Is the Big East TRYING to lose its BCS auto bid?

That's what I was thinking. Since basketball is the big sport at Memphis moving to a much better basketball conference wouldn't help them much. Also, since average ranking of all teams in the conference is a component of determining what conferences get an auto-bid, this would just hurt their average ranking, making it harder for them to keep that bid.
Jun 19, 2010 7:17pm