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Jun 18, 2010 11:57 AM
SnotBubbles;394098 wrote:So...it's still looking good as long as the US takes care of business?

Need England to take care of business as well, that way Slovenia doesn't get any more points.
Jun 18, 2010 11:57am
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patriots34

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Jun 18, 2010 11:57 AM
Our cocksucking defense in the first half put us in that position.
Jun 18, 2010 11:57am
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Jun 18, 2010 11:58 AM
ts1227;394108 wrote:Need England to take care of business as well, that way Slovenia doesn't get any more points.

If England only draws one game, we'd need to win goal differential. Need to root for the English, baby! Go England!!!
Jun 18, 2010 11:58am
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Jun 18, 2010 11:59 AM
If US wins, they are through unless England/Slovenia draw.
Jun 18, 2010 11:59am
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Jun 18, 2010 12:00 PM
US advance scenarios:

SCENARIO A

*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria and Slovenia

SCENARIO B

*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria
*Slovenia beats England

SCENARIO C

*US beats Algeria 2-0
*England beats Algeria
*England ties Slovenia

Correct?
Jun 18, 2010 12:00pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:00 PM
Not true. We want Endgland to win both games. And we win over Algeria. That's the best/easiest case scenaio. If Eng/Slo tie, then we have to beat Algeria by 2 or more goals to advance via the tie breaker.
Jun 18, 2010 12:00pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:02 PM
BigAppleBuckeye;394115 wrote:US advance scenarios:

SCENARIO A

*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria and Slovenia

SCENARIO B

*US beats Algeria
*England beats Algeria
*Slovenia beats England

SCENARIO C

*US beats Algeria 2-0
*England beats Algeria
*England ties Slovenia

Correct?
Yeah
Jun 18, 2010 12:02pm
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Al Bundy

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Jun 18, 2010 12:02 PM
If US wins, and Slovenia beats England, US also advances. US 5, England 4
Jun 18, 2010 12:02pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:03 PM
pinstriper;394118 wrote:Not true. We want Endgland to win both games. And we win over Algeria. That's the best/easiest case scenaio. If Eng/Slo tie, then we have to beat Algeria by 2 or more goals to advance via the tie breaker.

Why? If England beats Algeria but loses to Slovenia, and we beat Algeria, Slovenia would have 7 points, the US 5 pts, England 4 ... we advance
Jun 18, 2010 12:03pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:03 PM
Ok think I got it straight. Thanks for the scenarios.
Jun 18, 2010 12:03pm
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sportchampps

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Jun 18, 2010 12:05 PM
Lets just win by 2 and taking everything else outta question
Jun 18, 2010 12:05pm
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dave

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Jun 18, 2010 12:05 PM
If the US wins it will be very unlikely they don't advance, since after goal differential goals scored is the next tiebreaker I believe.
Jun 18, 2010 12:05pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:13 PM
I know it is unlikely, but wouldn't the US control their own destiny with an England loss today?
Jun 18, 2010 12:13pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:14 PM
slcoach;394132 wrote:I know it is unlikely, but wouldn't the US control their own destiny with an England loss today?

yes all theyd have to do is win
Jun 18, 2010 12:14pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:16 PM
What happens if we only beat Algeria 1-0, England beats Algeria 1-0, and England and Slovenia tie?
Jun 18, 2010 12:16pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:17 PM
If England lost today then beat Slovenia and the US beats Algeria we would win the group. Although this is the most unlikely thing that could happen.
Jun 18, 2010 12:17pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:18 PM
BigAppleBuckeye;394135 wrote:What happens if we only beat Algeria 1-0, England beats Algeria 1-0, and England and Slovenia tie?
It would go by goals scored. So if England/Slovenia tied 0-0 we would advance.
Jun 18, 2010 12:18pm
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Jun 18, 2010 12:19 PM
BigAppleBuckeye;394135 wrote:What happens if we only beat Algeria 1-0, England beats Algeria 1-0, and England and Slovenia tie?

Heads explode.
Jun 18, 2010 12:19pm
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Jun 18, 2010 1:43 PM
Terrible call by the ref basically cost the US the game but the crappy ass defense put them in the 2-0 hole to begin with. Can't worry about what the other teams do at this point as the USA just needs to WIN a game, it's that simple. Win and we are likely in barring something crazy happening.
Jun 18, 2010 1:43pm
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Jun 18, 2010 1:54 PM
hey--there was only ONE vote for a draw when the game ended---who voted after the game???
Jun 18, 2010 1:54pm
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Jun 18, 2010 1:58 PM
vball10set;394241 wrote:hey--there was only ONE vote for a draw when the game ended---who voted after the game???

I dunno there was also 2 people who voted for Slovenia to win during the game.
Jun 18, 2010 1:58pm
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Jun 18, 2010 3:28 PM
If England and Algeria tie, we control our own destiny. This is what we want to happen. If Algeria wins, we control our own destiny (but so do they, so the game will be tougher, in theory). So everyone.....just root for a goddamn tie this second half!
Jun 18, 2010 3:28pm
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Jun 18, 2010 3:31 PM
Laley23;394312 wrote:If England and Algeria tie, we control our own destiny. This is what we want to happen. If Algeria wins, we control our own destiny (but so do they, so the game will be tougher, in theory). So everyone.....just root for a goddamn tie this second half!

Preferably a 0-0 tie. That means, with a win against Algeria and an England win over Slovenia, we'd have an OK chance at going through as the top team from Group C (assuming England doesn't go nuts against the Slovenes)
Jun 18, 2010 3:31pm
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Jun 18, 2010 3:32 PM
gorocks99;394318 wrote:Preferably a 0-0 tie. That means, with a win against Algeria and an England win over Slovenia, we'd have an OK chance at going through as the top team from Group C (assuming England doesn't go nuts against the Slovenes)


This!
Jun 18, 2010 3:32pm
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Jun 18, 2010 3:33 PM
On the game:

A. That was a laser by Donovan. Would've made Fab1 proud if it was about 6 inches closer to the keeper cause it wouldve taken his head off

B. Gooch and Howard need to get off this long ball bullshit. Its all they did all game. No build ups. I cant be anymore critical than that cause somehow it resulted in 2 goals.

C. We want a TIE!

D. There is no such thing as offside(s). It is offside. If you are offsidesssss you are not in the game at all (if you take the meaning literal)

E. Oneywu needs to learn what (in Tim Howards words, if you read his mouth today) "STEP TO THE FUCKING BALL" means. He cost us both goals by not stepping up on the man with the ball. In his defense, the other defenders could help a bit :D

F. We need to shoot more often.

G. We got fucked by the ref, but should also feel a bit fortunate we tied. We really didnt play great at all.
Jun 18, 2010 3:33pm