jmog wrote: All I have to say is...LOL

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

I've said for years you don't find true science by governments paying for it, politics get involved, which appears to have happened...

jmog wrote: I'm still waiting on the tree huggers to get on here and explain this away.

Mr. 300 wrote: Eveyone wants clean air to breathe and clean water to drink. Name one person that doesn't want those things. The fringe left wants you believe they are the only ones that want these things sustained.

Eveyone wants clean air to breathe and clean water to drink. Name one person that doesn't want those things.

BCSbunk wrote: Well first off I am skeptical of anthropogenic global warming. However global warming has been documented, whether it is man or simply a normal part of nature I am still holding out for more results of testing.

Here is the other side of the story though.

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/#more-1853

BoatShoes wrote: Well...I guess I'll bite although I'm several Xmas Ale's deep. I don't see anything in that article that's that crazy...I mean, it still doesn't reveal that there's some great conspiracy between the the thousand's of scientists who think that anthropogenic warming is a genuine fact. I mean, what was hacked were some emails from one university. I mean...this doesn't close the door on the possibility on anthropogenic warming any more than some evidence that there might be anthropogenic warming closes the door that it is in fact happening.

Reasonable minds can disagree on this issue.

The Earth's average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.

Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.

Even though the temperature standstill probably has no effect on the long-term warming trend, it does raise doubts about the predictive value of climate models, and it is also a political issue. For months, climate change skeptics have been gloating over the findings on their Internet forums. This has prompted many a climatologist to treat the temperature data in public with a sense of shame, thereby damaging their own credibility.

"It cannot be denied that this is one of the hottest issues in the scientific community," says Jochem Marotzke, director of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg. "We don't really know why this stagnation is taking place at this point."

Just a few weeks ago, Britain's Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research added more fuel to the fire with its latest calculations of global average temperatures. According to the Hadley figures, the world grew warmer by 0.07 degrees Celsius from 1999 to 2008 and not by the 0.2 degrees Celsius assumed by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. And, say the British experts, when their figure is adjusted for two naturally occurring climate phenomena, El Niño and La Niña, the resulting temperature trend is reduced to 0.0 degrees Celsius -- in other words, a standstill.

ccrunner609 wrote: Al Gore is going to be pissed

Writerbuckeye wrote:Reputable scientists DO NOT DO THIS.

If you're a reputable scientist, you let the data go where it goes and you reach your conclusions accordingly. You don't "adjust" data to meet a preconceived idea.

There is no defense for some of this if you claim to be a reputable scientist

Writerbuckeye wrote:I do believe we are seeing the beginning of the end of the man-made global warming hoax.

So what are we going to do with a billion and a half, 1,000 pound creatures belching and crepitating us into global warming?

Beano© for cows?

Junichi Takahashi, Ph.D., a Japanese scientist at Obihiro University of Agriculture and Veterinary Medicine in Hokkaido, Japan may have the answer, or at least part of the answer. Dr. Takahashi and friends have developed a food additive that, they say, reduces bovine global warming intestinal gas to negligible levels.

CenterBHSFan wrote:

Eveyone wants clean air to breathe and clean water to drink. Name one person that doesn't want those things.

This.

Also, I'm jaded enough when it concerns the government, that I think there is only one reason they've jumped on-board this whole thing.....and that's taxes.

TAXES
TAXES
TAXES