tk421
Posts: 8,500
May 24, 2010 2:29pm
This is absolute bullshit. For any further proof that unions are killing this country, look no further. Although the article points out that Obama has "said" there will be no more bailouts, I'm not holding my breathe that this will get knocked down; especially since the unions basically have the Democratic party by the scrotum and will be putting up $100M for the upcoming elections. :@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@
http://www.thefoxnation.com/business/2010/05/21/unions-spend-100m-save-dems
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2010/05/24/lawmaker-introduces-b-union-pension-bailout/
http://www.thefoxnation.com/business/2010/05/21/unions-spend-100m-save-dems
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2010/05/24/lawmaker-introduces-b-union-pension-bailout/
Great, let's all pay for these greedy motherfucker's pensions while non union people will be lucky to retire at all, not to mention the incredible burden on the national debt that is already fallen over the cliff. The gull of this Democrat for even introducing this bill is outrageous, if this country had any balls whatsoever, he'd be voted out the next time his seat is up.Although right now taxpayers could possibly be on the hook for $165 billion, the liability could essentially be unlimited because these pensions have to be paid out until the workers die.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 24, 2010 3:32pm
Not to hijack your thread, but this isn't the only bailout potentially in play:
http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/24/teachers-seek-23b-lifeline-or-bailout/
We've opened the pandora's box with this sort of thing, and if it continues a lot of folks, including true believers in paying for your own weight and contributing to society are going to feel like suckers and wonder where their bail out is.
http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/24/teachers-seek-23b-lifeline-or-bailout/
We've opened the pandora's box with this sort of thing, and if it continues a lot of folks, including true believers in paying for your own weight and contributing to society are going to feel like suckers and wonder where their bail out is.
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fortfan
Posts: 339
May 24, 2010 3:36pm
Payback for helping elect the Prez..........
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 24, 2010 4:03pm
This.fortfan wrote: Payback for helping elect the Prez..........
What a damn joke this is...hard to believe anyone could actually defend this...
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 24, 2010 4:27pm
Everything that all of these socialists in D.C. have done has been to funnel money to either unions (i.e. GM via seizure) or public sector employees (read, unions) via "stimulus".
When does government get re-organized and restructured? When does the public sector largesse end? When do the REAL cuts at the federal level begin?
When does government get re-organized and restructured? When does the public sector largesse end? When do the REAL cuts at the federal level begin?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 24, 2010 4:35pm
Um. Never?
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 24, 2010 5:36pm
The PBGC insures all pensions...not just the unions. In other words, this is not a blue collar situation, but an overall labor situation. Yes back in the day, companies enticed workers by offering great pension plans in addition to good salaries...or pay per hour.
Today companies for the most part don't offer squat when it comes to pensions. The reason? Companies cannot afford pension plans. Just more proof that the US overall standard of living is spiraling down the toilet.
Today companies for the most part don't offer squat when it comes to pensions. The reason? Companies cannot afford pension plans. Just more proof that the US overall standard of living is spiraling down the toilet.
believer
Posts: 8,153
May 24, 2010 5:39pm
What do you mean "going to"? I already do!Manhattan Buckeye wrote:We've opened the pandora's box with this sort of thing, and if it continues a lot of folks, including true believers in paying for your own weight and contributing to society are going to feel like suckers and wonder where their bail out is.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 24, 2010 5:40pm
OMG. Can you imagine the panic in DC if the population all agreed that they weren't part of a party and they were actually going to vote for the best candidate?!
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Tinkertrain
Posts: 407
May 24, 2010 5:40pm
Coming from a union member this idea is total bullshit.
I'd also like to point out the complete hypocracy of conservatives for ripping on union workers for " Making too much money". I mean what's more socialist I mean conservative than hating on somebody for making too much money right comrades?
I'd also like to point out the complete hypocracy of conservatives for ripping on union workers for " Making too much money". I mean what's more socialist I mean conservative than hating on somebody for making too much money right comrades?
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 24, 2010 5:44pm
^^^
Depends on the union, to the extent the union has their hands in the pockets of the people making decisions on their negotiations (READ, PUBLIC UNIONS AND THE SEIU [emphasis mine]), yeah it is too much money.
Public worker unions have destroyed this country.
Depends on the union, to the extent the union has their hands in the pockets of the people making decisions on their negotiations (READ, PUBLIC UNIONS AND THE SEIU [emphasis mine]), yeah it is too much money.
Public worker unions have destroyed this country.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 24, 2010 6:01pm
Yeah sure Square...when you find the "best candidate", let us know. If you think an R is better than a D, then that ocean front property I got is all yours.SQ_Crazies wrote: OMG. Can you imagine the panic in DC if the population all agreed that they weren't part of a party and they were actually going to vote for the best candidate?!
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 24, 2010 6:03pm
The fuck are you talkin' about?
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 24, 2010 6:13pm
Again.....when you find out which candidates are "the best candidates", let us know.SQ_Crazies wrote: The fuck are you talkin' about?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 24, 2010 6:23pm
Likely a bunch of people who are too smart to get into politics.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
May 25, 2010 1:08am
Most likely the correct answer.SQ_Crazies wrote: Likely a bunch of people who are too smart to get into politics.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 25, 2010 1:14am
I don't like this.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 25, 2010 1:41am
Anyone who does should be dropped from 36,000 feet into the middle of the Pacific because they're too stupid to know what's good for them IMO.I Wear Pants wrote: I don't like this.
Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
May 25, 2010 7:37am
It is going to take years to undo what this admin is doing to our country here and around the world.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
May 25, 2010 9:48am
Unions and Teacher wanting bailouts....Not as long as I'm breathing.
Yesterday I called my Public Servant and demanded a meeting ....I have to submit in writing what I want to have a meeting for and the reason for this meeting. I have been dealing with this Public Servant Office for over a year on creating jobs and now this...... Worthless ....they can't create shit
Well they just pissed off the one person that does not give a shit for political correctness and protocol. My happy ass will be visiting that office soon. I’m organizing a few fellow Vietnam Vets an ugly group but dedicated to me and the principles this country stands for. This shit has to stop ………….NOW
Yesterday I called my Public Servant and demanded a meeting ....I have to submit in writing what I want to have a meeting for and the reason for this meeting. I have been dealing with this Public Servant Office for over a year on creating jobs and now this...... Worthless ....they can't create shit
Well they just pissed off the one person that does not give a shit for political correctness and protocol. My happy ass will be visiting that office soon. I’m organizing a few fellow Vietnam Vets an ugly group but dedicated to me and the principles this country stands for. This shit has to stop ………….NOW
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 25, 2010 9:56am
Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....but, but, but.......GEORGE BUSH!!!Mr. 300 wrote: It is going to take years to undo what this admin is doing to our country here and around the world.
God help us.
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bigmanbt
Posts: 258
May 25, 2010 10:10am
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
May 25, 2010 11:09am
Not defending the Obama Admin (because it is one of, if not the worst in history), but the Bush Admin was just as bad. Bush signed the very first bailout (stimulus) package. He spent just like Obama spends. They are one in the same, just spending on different things.SQ_Crazies wrote:Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....but, but, but.......GEORGE BUSH!!!Mr. 300 wrote: It is going to take years to undo what this admin is doing to our country here and around the world.
God help us.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 25, 2010 11:57am
They are not even close to one in the same, though I'm not saying Bush was great.
That, however, is not the point.
That, however, is not the point.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
May 25, 2010 12:03pm
Trust me, I'm no fan of how Bush spent, but the comparison between Bush's spending and Obama's is laughable.dwccrew wrote:
Not defending the Obama Admin (because it is one of, if not the worst in history), but the Bush Admin was just as bad. Bush signed the very first bailout (stimulus) package. He spent just like Obama spends. They are one in the same, just spending on different things.
When Bush spent say $100 retardedly, Obama would spend $1000 retardedly. Obama is 10x the "spender" that Bush was, and I hated how Bush "spent".
Even though, like I said above, look at who controls congress if you really want a look at the "spenders" since Congress makes that decision.