Belly35
Posts: 9,716
May 18, 2010 1:49pm
Blame, blame and more blame by the Obama Administration to put the foot on the neck of big oil companies…….. Hey! Obama your administration failed, did do their job, your appointed head Salazar is the problem and the cause ….so let put blame where blame should be ….Public Servant Obama Incompetent Administration.
The oil companies can be part of the problem but your administration is to make sure regulation and rules are followed …another failure
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=news/national_world&id=7448108
The oil companies can be part of the problem but your administration is to make sure regulation and rules are followed …another failure
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill
http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?section=news/national_world&id=7448108
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
May 18, 2010 2:05pm
SMH
Obama caused the oil spill and Bush caused Katrina
Obama caused the oil spill and Bush caused Katrina
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
May 18, 2010 2:13pm
One is mother nature and the power of nature and the other is man made with rules, regulation and federal relators to provide standard and safety process to mandate over the oil drilling process .... and so goes the beginning of the failure.derek bomar wrote: SMH
Obama caused the oil spill and Bush caused Katrina
You should know about rules and regulation in the bottle washing business.
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Gblock
May 18, 2010 2:15pm
certainly this problem has been around for many years i dont think obama has been in office long enough to take the blame for this one...there certainly were more pressing issues imo
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
May 18, 2010 2:25pm
Just as ludicrous as those who claimed Bush was responsible for all the destruction that Katrina brought.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
May 18, 2010 2:27pm
To many times we look only at the results of the problem as the issue and never address the root of the problem and the failure that let to the disaster. Administration after Administration has placed selected individual in position to do what ...correct the problem and stablize the department for the safety of American citizen and our country...... Sorry but this one fell in the Obama Administration so they can take the heat ……Gblock wrote: certainly this problem has been around for many years i dont think obama has been in office long enough to take the blame for this one...there certainly were more pressing issues imo
Other Administration have had to take the pressure of failure departments so why not Obama?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 18, 2010 2:54pm
Not really, in fact, Bush being blamed for Katrina MAY have been the single stupidest thing I've ever read or will ever read in my entire life.cbus4life wrote: Just as ludicrous as those who claimed Bush was responsible for all the destruction that Katrina brought.
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
May 18, 2010 3:03pm
Well, actually, i will agree with you on that.SQ_Crazies wrote:Not really, in fact, Bush being blamed for Katrina MAY have been the single stupidest thing I've ever read or will ever read in my entire life.cbus4life wrote: Just as ludicrous as those who claimed Bush was responsible for all the destruction that Katrina brought.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 18, 2010 3:06pm
This is dumb. So was blaming Katrina on Bush. He didn't cause a hurricane and Obama didn't cause BP to fuck up (although it really was most likely just a series of unfortunate events).
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
May 18, 2010 3:08pm
I say we just all agree to blame the spill on the shrimp.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
May 18, 2010 3:17pm
Answer this question: If the Obama Administration and the Department that Salazar was head of had done their jobs, making sure rules where followed and the Regulators was overseeing the drilling operation per the safety rules set via Salazar Department would the rig burn down and the spill be created and would those safety precaution help prevent this problem? Goverment Public Servant not doing the job.....I Wear Pants wrote: This is dumb. So was blaming Katrina on Bush. He didn't cause a hurricane and Obama didn't cause BP to fuck up (although it really was most likely just a series of unfortunate events).
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
May 18, 2010 3:39pm
Nevermind that government regulators failed at regulating. There shouldn't be regulations in the first place because if there weren't the free market and all of its infallible glory would have prevented this from happening.
Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
May 18, 2010 3:44pm
Goes with the territory. Obama gets the blame, but the ones that won't carry it are the press, like they did with Katrina.
Huge difference in my eyes.
Huge difference in my eyes.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
May 18, 2010 3:49pm
Department of Interior.Belly35 wrote:Answer this question: If the Obama Administration and the Department that Salazar was head of had done their jobs, making sure rules where followed and the Regulators was overseeing the drilling operation per the safety rules set via Salazar Department would the rig burn down and the spill be created and would those safety precaution help prevent this problem? Goverment Public Servant not doing the job.....I Wear Pants wrote: This is dumb. So was blaming Katrina on Bush. He didn't cause a hurricane and Obama didn't cause BP to fuck up (although it really was most likely just a series of unfortunate events).
But, oversight failed in this instance and it is a result of failure of the government and cost cutting measures by the companies on the rig. It was a awful combination that is resulting in a huge ecological disaster.
Blame goes to government oversight, and response (should have acted a little quicker and not take the word of BP as faith) and of BP and the other companies for failing to be fully transparent and go for the cost cutting measures.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
May 18, 2010 3:53pm
hey man, lay off the shrimp!cbus4life wrote: I say we just all agree to blame the spill on the shrimp.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
May 18, 2010 3:56pm
I always fry my shrimp in oil.
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
May 18, 2010 3:57pm
See!majorspark wrote: I always fry my shrimp in oil.
The shrimp figured they might as well just speed up the inevitable and cover themselves in oil before they're even caught.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 18, 2010 4:22pm
Bingo.I Wear Pants wrote: This is dumb. So was blaming Katrina on Bush. He didn't cause a hurricane and Obama didn't cause BP to fuck up (although it really was most likely just a series of unfortunate events).
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assumption
Posts: 147
May 18, 2010 8:02pm
Tried a new thread on this oil spill and as usual I got banned. But, how about the NO party trying to block lifting liability on the oil companys. Hmmmm.....wonder why? They should pay, for all of the disaster.
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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
May 18, 2010 11:18pm
I find it hilarious that the right wing blames this on not having enough regulations. Aren't they supposed to be the party of "no regulations, let the free market sort out the winners and losers"?
believer
Posts: 8,153
May 19, 2010 3:12am
Apparently you are unable to recognize sarcasm when it's applied?stlouiedipalma wrote: I find it hilarious that the right wing blames this on not having enough regulations. Aren't they supposed to be the party of "no regulations, let the free market sort out the winners and losers"?
fish82
Posts: 4,111
May 19, 2010 10:03am
Actually I read it more as blaming the "regulation happy" administration for epic failure to to a job that they profess is so vital.stlouiedipalma wrote: I find it hilarious that the right wing blames this on not having enough regulations. Aren't they supposed to be the party of "no regulations, let the free market sort out the winners and losers"?
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
May 19, 2010 12:29pm
I believe what GWB was 'blamed' for was a slow response in the aftermath of Katrina....although New Orleans and Louisiana were slow to ask for federal help, the Bush Administration was blamed.
Nary a peep out of the left or the media about this adminstrations response.
Nary a peep out of the left or the media about this adminstrations response.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 19, 2010 12:47pm
Which is exactly why it was stupid. Has nothing to do with President Bush AND it takes time to mobilize a force as big as the one that went to N.O.wkfan wrote: I believe what GWB was 'blamed' for was a slow response in the aftermath of Katrina....although New Orleans and Louisiana were slow to ask for federal help, the Bush Administration was blamed.
Nary a peep out of the left or the media about this adminstrations response.
Didn't most of them arrive in a period of 48-72 hours? That's INCREDIBLE. Fuck the people who think otherwise, they seem to have some false notion that there are just people standing in a sprinters starting position ready to break to a disaster area. Dumb fucking people that's all it was.
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fan_from_texas
Posts: 2,693
May 19, 2010 2:28pm
What are you talking about? I'm not familiar with this--what liability limits are shielding BP from responsibility here?assumption wrote: Tried a new thread on this oil spill and as usual I got banned. But, how about the NO party trying to block lifting liability on the oil companys. Hmmmm.....wonder why? They should pay, for all of the disaster.
Pointing out regulatory failure in an obvious situation of industry capture doesn't necessitate additional regulation. It's what has traditionally prompted calls for reduced regulation and what drove much of that movement in the 1970s/80s. Industry capture is an inevitable result of regulation, as has been discussed on here before, and simply creating "new" regulations or getting "new" regulators in there doesn't change that in the long run.stlouiedipalma wrote: I find it hilarious that the right wing blames this on not having enough regulations. Aren't they supposed to be the party of "no regulations, let the free market sort out the winners and losers"?