gibby08
Posts: 1,581
May 16, 2010 10:01pm
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/05/15/2010-05-15_oakley_feels_its_23_skidoo.html?ref=rss
He is buddies with Lebron and owns a house in Cleveland
He is buddies with Lebron and owns a house in Cleveland
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
May 16, 2010 10:04pm
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 16, 2010 10:10pm
I own a house in Cleveland too and he's staying.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
May 16, 2010 11:02pm
I live in Ohio too and he's staying.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
May 16, 2010 11:04pm
If he leaves I hope he takes Drew Carey with him.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 16, 2010 11:06pm
I tag teamed LeBron's mom with Delonte... and LeBron's staying.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 16, 2010 11:22pm
gibby is a douchebag, and Lebron's staying
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 223
May 17, 2010 12:00am
Lebron owes NE Ohio nothing!!!
Spare me the loyalty crap as everyone knows there isn't loyalty in college or pro sports anymore.
I live in Ohio too and if someone offered me $100,000 a yr to go to either city.You better believe I would be on the next flight out of town.I want him to stay but understand why he would leave.
Spare me the loyalty crap as everyone knows there isn't loyalty in college or pro sports anymore.
I live in Ohio too and if someone offered me $100,000 a yr to go to either city.You better believe I would be on the next flight out of town.I want him to stay but understand why he would leave.
krazie45
Posts: 1,055
May 17, 2010 12:04am
Sorry, I couldn't understand turning down $40 million
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
May 17, 2010 12:16am
Reallllly?Puddle Jumper wrote: Spare me the loyalty crap as everyone knows there isn't loyalty in college or pro sports anymore.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
May 17, 2010 12:17am
Who's turning down $40 million?krazie45 wrote: Sorry, I couldn't understand turning down $40 million
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
May 17, 2010 12:29am
I say it is 60-40. 60% he stays, 40% he goes. I hope he stays, but I think there is a serious chance he might leave. Apparently some of these Cavalier-fan posters on here have inside information or something... they all seem uber-confident that he is returning. Overconfident Cavs fans haven't been wrong before have they?
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 17, 2010 12:40am
You don't understand something here. This isn't baseball. Lebron will make more money in Cleveland than he would elsewhere. He might leave, but it has nothing to do with money.Puddle Jumper wrote: Lebron owes NE Ohio nothing!!!
Spare me the loyalty crap as everyone knows there isn't loyalty in college or pro sports anymore.
I live in Ohio too and if someone offered me $100,000 a yr to go to either city.You better believe I would be on the next flight out of town.I want him to stay but understand why he would leave.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 17, 2010 12:41am
Most Cav fans here are well aware that LBJ may leave after how the season ended.jordo212000 wrote: I say it is 60-40. 60% he stays, 40% he goes. I hope he stays, but I think there is a serious chance he might leave. Apparently some of these Cavalier-fan posters on here have inside information or something... they all seem uber-confident that he is returning. Overconfident Cavs fans haven't been wrong before have they?
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
May 17, 2010 12:48am
I would bet even money he signs no more than a 3 year deal regardless of where he goes, so that 6th year the Cavs can offer is kind of negated.Lebron will make more money in Cleveland than he would elsewhere.
As long as he keeps working on 3 year contracts he can keep free agency at 28 open, as well as keeping immense pressure on front office of whatever team he is on to operate with a major sense of urgency because 3 years is not a long time.
Anyone who thinks he is signing the big 6 year deal is nuts, because all that would do is lock him into a situation long term and negate alot of the type of leverage he has operated with the past few years with the constant threat he may leave soon always hanging overhead.
krazie45
Posts: 1,055
May 17, 2010 12:51am
LeBron if he signs anywhere other than Cleveland, they own his bird rights and can offer him the most money.IggyPride00 wrote:Who's turning down $40 million?krazie45 wrote: Sorry, I couldn't understand turning down $40 million
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
May 17, 2010 1:15am
He is only going to sign a 3 year deal, so being able to add a 6th year instead of 5 won't matter. He will only be leaving a few million on the table over the course of 3 years if he leaves, not $40.krazie45 wrote:LeBron if he signs anywhere other than Cleveland, they own his bird rights and can offer him the most money.IggyPride00 wrote:Who's turning down $40 million?krazie45 wrote: Sorry, I couldn't understand turning down $40 million
krazie45
Posts: 1,055
May 17, 2010 1:18am
1. That's your opinion, we won't know for sure until he signsIggyPride00 wrote:He is only going to sign a 3 year deal, so being able to add a 6th year instead of 5 won't matter. He will only be leaving a few million on the table over the course of 3 years if he leaves, not $40.krazie45 wrote:LeBron if he signs anywhere other than Cleveland, they own his bird rights and can offer him the most money.IggyPride00 wrote:Who's turning down $40 million?krazie45 wrote: Sorry, I couldn't understand turning down $40 million
2. Even if he signs the 3 year deal he'd still be leaving 7-8 figures of money on the table, my point still stands.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
May 17, 2010 1:49am
There is a big difference between you getting $100,000 offer and leaving and the offers LEbron gets. Lebron is worth 100's of millions, so the money shouldn't really matter. 100,000 to you (someone that I assume isn't worth millions) could get you to move. Lebron can go whereever he likes and for less money, because he doesn't need money at all.Puddle Jumper wrote: Lebron owes NE Ohio nothing!!!
Spare me the loyalty crap as everyone knows there isn't loyalty in college or pro sports anymore.
I live in Ohio too and if someone offered me $100,000 a yr to go to either city.You better believe I would be on the next flight out of town.I want him to stay but understand why he would leave.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 17, 2010 2:39am
Meh who cares.
If he goes, he goes.
If he stays, he stays.
We've had him 7 years and haven't won anything. I mean don't get me wrong, I want him to stay, but this dude isn't going to hold me hostage as a fan.
If he goes, he goes.
If he stays, he stays.
We've had him 7 years and haven't won anything. I mean don't get me wrong, I want him to stay, but this dude isn't going to hold me hostage as a fan.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
May 17, 2010 2:46am
krazie45 wrote:1. That's your opinion, we won't know for sure until he signsIggyPride00 wrote:He is only going to sign a 3 year deal, so being able to add a 6th year instead of 5 won't matter. He will only be leaving a few million on the table over the course of 3 years if he leaves, not $40.krazie45 wrote:LeBron if he signs anywhere other than Cleveland, they own his bird rights and can offer him the most money.IggyPride00 wrote:Who's turning down $40 million?krazie45 wrote: Sorry, I couldn't understand turning down $40 million
2. Even if he signs the 3 year deal he'd still be leaving 7-8 figures of money on the table, my point still stands.
On a 3 year deal he leaves less than 2 million dollars on the table. That is pocket change to him. Given the way the increases work, that 6 year is a massive balloon payment, but any contract without it looks very similar.LeBron, Wade and Bosh
All three players entered the NBA the same year and signed maximum contracts after their rookie deal expires. They each earned the same amount of money this past season.
* Thirty percent of the salary cap = $15.774 million
* 105% of previous contract for LeBron, Wade and Bosh = $16.57 million
* 8% annual increases = $1.33 million
* 10.5% annual increases = $1.74 million
Total value of a non-Bird maximum contract (five years, 8%) = $96.15 million
Total value of a Bird rights maximum contract (six years, 10.5%) = $125.52 million
A difference of $29.37 million between the non-bird and bird rights offers.
http://nbaroundtable.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/maximum-contracts/
We don't know for sure what length deal he will sign, but I don't see why anyone would think he won't do the exact same thing he did last time this time as it did exactly what he wanted in terms of keeping flexibility and options for himself, as well as not getting stuck in a potential bad long term situation.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
May 17, 2010 8:14am
This had me cracking up.Fly4Fun wrote: I tag teamed LeBron's mom with Delonte... and LeBron's staying.
Anyways, I saw this on the bottom of the scroll on ESPN this morning. I thought to myself "Really?!?! This is newsworthy, because he is a former player and has a house in Cleveland...then it must be true?!?!" Seems dumb to me.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
May 17, 2010 8:51am
Anyone that thinks Lebron will stay in Cleveland due to them being able to offer more money is just ignorant.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
May 17, 2010 9:49am
IF he does the 3 years, he's not losing much without a sign and trade. Another thing to keep in mind is that in Miami, he'll make more of that back because he won't be getting taxed for about 43 games. I'm too lazy to look up the numbers to see how much he's really make back, but it'd cut into that 2M lost. IF he does go the 3yr way, and gets a sign and trade, he'll make the most money in Miami because of the non-tax.IggyPride00 wrote:krazie45 wrote:1. That's your opinion, we won't know for sure until he signsIggyPride00 wrote:He is only going to sign a 3 year deal, so being able to add a 6th year instead of 5 won't matter. He will only be leaving a few million on the table over the course of 3 years if he leaves, not $40.krazie45 wrote:LeBron if he signs anywhere other than Cleveland, they own his bird rights and can offer him the most money.IggyPride00 wrote:Who's turning down $40 million?krazie45 wrote: Sorry, I couldn't understand turning down $40 million
2. Even if he signs the 3 year deal he'd still be leaving 7-8 figures of money on the table, my point still stands.On a 3 year deal he leaves less than 2 million dollars on the table. That is pocket change to him. Given the way the increases work, that 6 year is a massive balloon payment, but any contract without it looks very similar.LeBron, Wade and Bosh
All three players entered the NBA the same year and signed maximum contracts after their rookie deal expires. They each earned the same amount of money this past season.
* Thirty percent of the salary cap = $15.774 million
* 105% of previous contract for LeBron, Wade and Bosh = $16.57 million
* 8% annual increases = $1.33 million
* 10.5% annual increases = $1.74 million
Total value of a non-Bird maximum contract (five years, 8%) = $96.15 million
Total value of a Bird rights maximum contract (six years, 10.5%) = $125.52 million
A difference of $29.37 million between the non-bird and bird rights offers.
http://nbaroundtable.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/maximum-contracts/
We don't know for sure what length deal he will sign, but I don't see why anyone would think he won't do the exact same thing he did last time this time as it did exactly what he wanted in terms of keeping flexibility and options for himself, as well as not getting stuck in a potential bad long term situation.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 17, 2010 9:53am
I'd love for him to stay in Cleveland,but Chicago could be an instant contender with him joining Rose,Noah,etc.--and for that reason I could see him being very much interested in the Bulls...plus, it's the team of his lifelong idol 