SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 14, 2010 10:40am
Most hated if lebron goes to NY
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
May 14, 2010 10:41am
Modell because Cleveland is still and will always be a football town first.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
May 14, 2010 10:44am
Modell, and it's not even close. As great as LeBron is, he would not be taking the entire franchise from the city.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 14, 2010 10:46am
I mean he would basically ruin cavs basketball for as long as art modell ruined cleveland football...Al Bundy wrote: Modell, and it's not even close. As great as LeBron is, he would not be taking the entire franchise from the city.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
May 14, 2010 10:51am
When Modell took the Browns, there was no guarantee that Cleveland would ever have an NFL franchise again.SportsAndLady wrote:I mean he would basically ruin cavs basketball for as long as art modell ruined cleveland football...Al Bundy wrote: Modell, and it's not even close. As great as LeBron is, he would not be taking the entire franchise from the city.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 14, 2010 10:51am
No comparison. Modell was NEVER loved in Cleveland.
The kid (Lebron) basically saved the franchise. Gilbert/Ferry had PLENTY of time to construct a winner. IF he wants to win, a dude can only take SO much of the letdowns. It would be like you being a wing man for one of your boys and night in and night out having to "dive on the grenade" by doing the hot chicks fat tagalong. Shit would get OLD after awhile.
I won't begrudge him if he leaves but he could have gone out better than looking like he didn't care and tanking it in a few of the last games.
The kid (Lebron) basically saved the franchise. Gilbert/Ferry had PLENTY of time to construct a winner. IF he wants to win, a dude can only take SO much of the letdowns. It would be like you being a wing man for one of your boys and night in and night out having to "dive on the grenade" by doing the hot chicks fat tagalong. Shit would get OLD after awhile.
I won't begrudge him if he leaves but he could have gone out better than looking like he didn't care and tanking it in a few of the last games.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 14, 2010 2:33pm
a ha!
Goldhammer says he is 1a next to Modell..haha
Goldhammer says he is 1a next to Modell..haha
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
May 14, 2010 2:34pm
lol...just heard that.
Hammer is exactly right though....he will go from local hero...to zero.
Hammer is exactly right though....he will go from local hero...to zero.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 14, 2010 2:41pm
yupwes_mantooth wrote: Modell because Cleveland is still and will always be a football town first.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
May 14, 2010 2:50pm
I won't hate Lebron like Modell. You can't really call him a "sell-out" either because essentially, if goes elsewhere, he will make LESS money.
4cards
Posts: 2,551
May 14, 2010 2:53pm
....In this order.
1. Art
2. Art's son
3. LJ
1. Art
2. Art's son
3. LJ
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 14, 2010 3:09pm
Not even close, it's Modell.
Cleveland will ALWAYS be Browns town. Always. The question about whether it was becoming a Cavs town from earlier in the year is still laughable.
Taking the team vs. leaving the team.
Cleveland will ALWAYS be Browns town. Always. The question about whether it was becoming a Cavs town from earlier in the year is still laughable.
Taking the team vs. leaving the team.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
May 14, 2010 3:31pm
Not even close.
Modell will always be the most hated person in Cleveland sports history.
Modell will always be the most hated person in Cleveland sports history.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
May 14, 2010 4:08pm
I for one will like LeBron once he leaves. Might even cheer him on, although doubtful.
I'm tired of the LeBron Cavaliers fans, of it being LeBron at Chicago, LeBron at Philadelphia, Hawks at LeBron... The Cavs didn't lose Game 6 at Boston. LeBron lost at Boston. At least that's how it is with the fans I know.
I'm tired of the LeBron Cavaliers fans, of it being LeBron at Chicago, LeBron at Philadelphia, Hawks at LeBron... The Cavs didn't lose Game 6 at Boston. LeBron lost at Boston. At least that's how it is with the fans I know.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 14, 2010 4:09pm
Yeah, well it's not with mereclegend22 wrote: I for one will like LeBron once he leaves. Might even cheer him on, although doubtful.
I'm tired of the LeBron Cavaliers fans, of it being LeBron at Chicago, LeBron at Philadelphia, Hawks at LeBron... The Cavs didn't lose Game 6 at Boston. LeBron lost at Boston. At least that's how it is with the fans I know.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
May 14, 2010 4:22pm
You're right, it's certainly not everyone. But there are enough of them.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
May 14, 2010 4:24pm
I am a Art fan and could be becoming a big James fan here very soon.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
May 14, 2010 4:27pm
Its hard to admit, but if LBJ leaves, I'll probably quit following the NBA. I was always a cavs fan growing up, but it just seemed like the older I got, the less I cared. Then LBJ got drafted and I started following them, but not the rest of the league like I did before. I don't know, it feels like I'm only a casual fan at best anymore and without a successful team to root for, I'll probably quit following altogether.reclegend22 wrote: I for one will like LeBron once he leaves. Might even cheer him on, although doubtful.
I'm tired of the LeBron Cavaliers fans, of it being LeBron at Chicago, LeBron at Philadelphia, Hawks at LeBron... The Cavs didn't lose Game 6 at Boston. LeBron lost at Boston. At least that's how it is with the fans I know.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
May 14, 2010 5:15pm
Silly question. Cleveland is a Browns town....Modell +1,000,000
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
May 14, 2010 5:18pm
If all of you would just become Xavier basketball fans you would be much more accustomed to losing people to places they feel are better.
My lucky streak so far has been those people have never won a championship either. I will immediately wish that on Lebron as well. I'm usually pretty good at it.
It will always be a football city first though. Modell doesn't feel safe coming to town when the Ravens are on the schedule @ Cleveland. That is saying something right there.
My lucky streak so far has been those people have never won a championship either. I will immediately wish that on Lebron as well. I'm usually pretty good at it.
It will always be a football city first though. Modell doesn't feel safe coming to town when the Ravens are on the schedule @ Cleveland. That is saying something right there.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 14, 2010 5:53pm
For me it'll be Lebron since I never was a Browns fan (though Modell is still a tremendous douche). Don't talk about how loyal you are to Akron and your fans and then take a shit in the playoffs and bolt. He leaves I hope he never makes it past the first round of playoffs again.