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CardsFlyinHigh
Posts: 340
Apr 29, 2010 8:11pm
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7403322
Just a stupid thing on Pitts part. What does it hurt to have a high school using your logo? How many schools have the Florida State spear on their helmets and they've never said a word.
Just a stupid thing on Pitts part. What does it hurt to have a high school using your logo? How many schools have the Florida State spear on their helmets and they've never said a word.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Apr 29, 2010 8:51pm
CardsFlyinHigh wrote: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7403322
Just a stupid thing on Pitts part. What does it hurt to have a high school using your logo? How many schools have the Florida State spear on their helmets and they've never said a word.
I don't think FSU was the first to use that spear and I don't think they invented it. Also, most high schools you see using a spear have a variation on the FSU one if you look close.
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CardsFlyinHigh
Posts: 340
Apr 29, 2010 9:55pm
same thing with Whitmer. It wasnt exactally pitt's logo but close enough. I just don't get why Pitt is so upset with someone using their logo. I would think it would be a good thing.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Apr 29, 2010 10:20pm
Well, it has to be the same or close enough or Pitt wouldn't have a case. Pitt is "upset" because income is being made from a school using their logo. Pitt either gets a royalty (if Pitt chooses that route) or Whitmer has to stop using it. Pitt can also just say stop using it or we'll take you to court. The Toledo school system can't afford a lawsuit like that.
This isn't a new thing either. A few years ago several colleges did this. I recall Wisconsin ordering Wapak and some other schools to stop using their logo or else change it altogether, which I think Wapak did.
This isn't a new thing either. A few years ago several colleges did this. I recall Wisconsin ordering Wapak and some other schools to stop using their logo or else change it altogether, which I think Wapak did.
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Fabio
Posts: 547
Apr 29, 2010 10:23pm
My high school essentially used the same exact helmet design of the New Orleans Saints for all of the 90's and up until the 2002 season, which they switched to a white flor de lis logo, but I remember our school formally asking the Saints permission to use their logo for our athletic teams.
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irish_buffalo
Posts: 103
Apr 29, 2010 10:48pm
Big nothing story.
Whitmer has changed their logo to one that a student came up which is better than the Pitt one which they probably paid a company $100,000's of dollars to come up with.
By the way Steel Valley the Toledo Public School system has nothing to do with this as Toledo Whitmer is governed by Washington Local Schools.
Whitmer has changed their logo to one that a student came up which is better than the Pitt one which they probably paid a company $100,000's of dollars to come up with.
By the way Steel Valley the Toledo Public School system has nothing to do with this as Toledo Whitmer is governed by Washington Local Schools.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Apr 29, 2010 11:00pm
irish_buffalo wrote: Big nothing story.
Whitmer has changed their logo to one that a student came up which is better than the Pitt one which they probably paid a company $100,000's of dollars to come up with.
By the way Steel Valley the Toledo Public School system has nothing to do with this as Toledo Whitmer is governed by Washington Local Schools.
LOL so Washington Local then. My point was that no school system can afford to go to court with a major university over something like this (they will likely lose).
MANAZE
Posts: 1,055
Apr 30, 2010 2:10am
Forget Pitt for now on. If you want to pick on a HS that you don't deserve support. I'm sure that HS isn't making millions on their logo. I'd like to see someone sue Pitt because they aren't the first to use the panther either and I bet somewhere there is someone who said hey look that design looks just like the one we have.
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Keith
Posts: 155
Apr 30, 2010 7:44am
I'd like to hear from Pitt how they are being hurt by Whitmers use of the logo. How much money is it costing the university due to a HIGH SCHOOL in ohio using a logo that is similar to theirs?
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Altor
Posts: 62
Apr 30, 2010 8:53am
It doesn't matter how much money Pitt is losing, if any. If the owner of a trademark finds out somebody is (mis)using their mark, they have to defend it. If they don't defend it, then they risk losing exclusive rights to that mark.Keith wrote: I'd like to hear from Pitt how they are being hurt by Whitmers use of the logo. How much money is it costing the university due to a HIGH SCHOOL in ohio using a logo that is similar to theirs?
ManO'War
Posts: 1,420
Apr 30, 2010 9:18am
correct...its all about copyright protection.
Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
Apr 30, 2010 10:21am
Altor has it right. Manaze and Keith just don't get it.
This trademark infringement stuff happens ALL the time. It's usually a cut and dry case and this one should be no different.
This trademark infringement stuff happens ALL the time. It's usually a cut and dry case and this one should be no different.
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Zombienation
Posts: 68
Apr 30, 2010 11:21am
Because a big S is really original rightManO'War wrote: correct...its all about copyright protection.
Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
war_admiral
Posts: 328
Apr 30, 2010 11:32pm
No but a fire-breathing horse is
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ManO'War
Posts: 1,420
May 1, 2010 12:06am
The S is on the helmet, but it's not our logo. Do some research before making stupid comments, will ya?!Zombienation wrote:Because a big S is really original rightManO'War wrote: correct...its all about copyright protection.
Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
sonofsam
Posts: 2,052
May 1, 2010 12:55am
Edited by GoChiefs. Not going to turn every thread into an argument.ManO'War wrote:The S is on the helmet, but it's not our logo. Do some research before making stupid comments, will ya?!Zombienation wrote:Because a big S is really original rightManO'War wrote: correct...its all about copyright protection.
Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
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beverboy1
Posts: 514
May 2, 2010 12:10am
I GUESS PITT NEEDS ALL THE MONEY THEY CAN GET WHAT A JOKE!!!!!
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Keith
Posts: 155
May 3, 2010 6:28am
I get it just fine. I've been around this stuff for a very long time. I completely understand it is all about Pitt protecting their "trademark" from a big bad high school. But again the question is how much money could Pitt possibly be losing due to this.Steel Valley Football wrote: Altor has it right. Manaze and Keith just don't get it.
This trademark infringement stuff happens ALL the time. It's usually a cut and dry case and this one should be no different.
ManO'War
Posts: 1,420
May 3, 2010 9:12am
It's not about Pitt losing money to a hs, but if Pitt doesn't protect their trademark now, then they lose that ability in the future, whereas then anyone will be able to use the logo and make money off of it.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
May 3, 2010 11:01am
See Keith you really don't get it.
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Keith
Posts: 155
May 3, 2010 11:06am
And you're not getting it if you think it is about anything BUT money. But frankly it's not worth getting into a pissing match over. I know our good friends up on Whitmer Dr. will handle this appropriately.
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akron hammer
Posts: 8
May 3, 2010 3:07pm
Wasn't going to check in but.......Pitt is protecting a logo it "retired" 3 years ago. They replaced it with a newer cat and now don't use that one either. They use a PITT logo now. It will all get cleared up and Whitmer's new cat will be trademarked. Lemonade will be made out of these lemons.
Keith....I enjoy the healthy rivalry and respect the Panthers have with the Little Giants. Leaguemates will only make it better.
Keith....I enjoy the healthy rivalry and respect the Panthers have with the Little Giants. Leaguemates will only make it better.
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Keith
Posts: 155
May 3, 2010 8:22pm
Agreed akron hammer. The amount of respect, class and sportsmanship shown by Ross and Whitmer towards each other is great to see. When the Little Giants and Panthers play you can be sure you'll see a great, well played game. I have been fortunate to have developed some tremendous friendships with some knowledgable, classy Whitmer fans. And yes, I very much look forward to 2011 and our entrance into the City League.
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jm71witmr
Posts: 85
May 4, 2010 7:57am
Akron hammer, You're right that lemonade will be made. I will be delighted when the.... pittcher of lemonade is gone. We can get back to focusing on the needs of the kids....
Keith, I too am looking forward to another Little Giant...Panther battle.
115 days until the first game of the 2010 season.
Keith, I too am looking forward to another Little Giant...Panther battle.
115 days until the first game of the 2010 season.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
May 7, 2010 11:14am
it seems to me pitt should worry about more important things. like why do they lose games they should win.