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Apr 29, 2010 1:10 PM
Tom Dienhart has tweeted that the Big Ten expansion buzz has the conference adding Mizzou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse.

The conference would be divided into 4 divisions of 4.

He has alignments of:

'Cuse, Pitt, Rutgers, and Penn State
Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Minnesota
Ohio State, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois/Northwestern
Mizzou, Nebraska, Iowa, and Illinois/Northwestern.


Thoughts??
Apr 29, 2010 1:10pm
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Apr 29, 2010 1:13 PM
mucalum49 wrote:Thoughts??
My thoughts are that I have heard enough talks about expansion, that I simply do not care about it until its actually 100% signed sealed and delivered.
Apr 29, 2010 1:13pm
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Apr 29, 2010 1:32 PM
I like OSU's chances in their division.
Apr 29, 2010 1:32pm
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Apr 29, 2010 1:40 PM
OSU's division = weak sauce.

the other 3 are pretty good.

I too will only be excited when they actually add someone. Until then, we are just playing fantasy with these divisions.
Apr 29, 2010 1:40pm
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Apr 29, 2010 1:48 PM
Of course Ohio State would get the easiest spot.
Apr 29, 2010 1:48pm
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Apr 29, 2010 1:49 PM
The Big East would cease to exist without Pitt, Syracuse
Apr 29, 2010 1:49pm
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Apr 29, 2010 2:13 PM
There's always talk about how "weak" the big east is. If the big ten really wanted to "improve" itself why would they add:

One team (Pitt) who has only won one big east title (shared with 3 other teams)
Rutgers who has never won a big east title
Syracuse who hasn't won a big east title in over a decade

WVU has been much better in the long run and have a great following of fans, if the Big Ten cared one bit about quality and not money then WVU would be at the top of the expansion list.

This is all about money and won't improve the quality of Big Ten football one bit... if anything it will go down. Teams in the conference won't even play almost half of the rest of the conference. 16 teams is just too many in Football. It works in basketball, but won't work very well for football.
Apr 29, 2010 2:13pm
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Apr 29, 2010 2:18 PM
as long as we continue to play tsun every year,I don't care how many teams are in the conferenece,or how it's aligned
Apr 29, 2010 2:18pm
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Apr 29, 2010 2:22 PM
Adding these teams isnt all about football
Apr 29, 2010 2:22pm
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Apr 29, 2010 2:24 PM
The Big Ten must believe that Syracuse basketball combined with the handful of people who follow Rutgers sports will get the BTN on basic cable in NYC. I don't like adding all of these bottomfeeders in football though. Nebraska would be a nice get though, as long as they can get back to close to what they used to be. It is all about money though.
Apr 29, 2010 2:24pm
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Apr 29, 2010 3:41 PM
mucalum49 wrote: Tom Dienhart has tweeted that the Big Ten expansion buzz has the conference adding Mizzou, Nebraska, Pitt, Rutgers and Syracuse.

The conference would be divided into 4 divisions of 4.

He has alignments of:

'Cuse, Pitt, Rutgers, and Penn State
Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State and Minnesota
Ohio State, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois/Northwestern
Mizzou, Nebraska, Iowa, and Illinois/Northwestern.


Thoughts??
I understand that you need 2 divisions to set up a championship game, but what is the purpose of 4 divisions?
Apr 29, 2010 3:41pm
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Apr 29, 2010 3:51 PM
I would guess to have a 4 team conference tournament.
Apr 29, 2010 3:51pm
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Apr 29, 2010 3:51 PM
Exactly, Syracuse and Rutgers is all about TV markets, I agree with that.
Apr 29, 2010 3:51pm
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Al Bundy

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Apr 29, 2010 4:15 PM
Cleveland Buck wrote: I would guess to have a 4 team conference tournament.
Can that be done under current NCAA rules?
Apr 29, 2010 4:15pm
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Apr 29, 2010 4:35 PM
gibby08 wrote: Of course I'm a stupid cocksucker
Apr 29, 2010 4:35pm
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Apr 29, 2010 6:33 PM
Four Four school Divisions???? RIDICULOUS!!
Apr 29, 2010 6:33pm
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Apr 29, 2010 7:19 PM
Ohio State will still win the Big Ten, don't care how many teams, and that's all that matters to me.
Apr 29, 2010 7:19pm
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Apr 29, 2010 8:43 PM
gibby08 wrote: The Big East would cease to exist without Pitt, Syracuse
714 posts, and I'm still waiting for an intelligent one from you.
Apr 29, 2010 8:43pm
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Apr 29, 2010 8:59 PM
This is fucking terrible. It's time for the NCAA to restrict conference sizes! Sixteen teams?! That's just stupid, you'd play like half the conference in any given year. Twelve or fourteen should be the limit!
Apr 29, 2010 8:59pm
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Apr 29, 2010 9:28 PM
sjmvsfscs08 wrote: This is fucking terrible. It's time for the NCAA to restrict conference sizes! Sixteen teams?! That's just stupid, you'd play like half the conference in any given year. Twelve or fourteen should be the limit!
The Big East has 12 teams for the basketball conference. I never see you or anyone else complain about that.
Apr 29, 2010 9:28pm
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Apr 29, 2010 9:35 PM
goosebumps wrote: There's always talk about how "weak" the big east is. If the big ten really wanted to "improve" itself why would they add:

One team (Pitt) who has only won one big east title (shared with 3 other teams)
Rutgers who has never won a big east title
Syracuse who hasn't won a big east title in over a decade

WVU has been much better in the long run and have a great following of fans, if the Big Ten cared one bit about quality and not money then WVU would be at the top of the expansion list.

This is all about money and won't improve the quality of Big Ten football one bit... if anything it will go down. Teams in the conference won't even play almost half of the rest of the conference. 16 teams is just too many in Football. It works in basketball, but won't work very well for football.
WVU can't join the Big Ten. Don't you think RR has suffered enough. Now he'll get his tail kick by his old school, and the BB team would get ran out of the gym too. Many have enjoyed the Michigan suffering but WVU joining the Big Ten would be just down right cruel.
Apr 29, 2010 9:35pm
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Apr 29, 2010 10:16 PM
slingshot4ever wrote:
The Big East has 12 teams for the basketball conference. I never see you or anyone else complain about that.
I assume you meant 16 teams in basketball.

But there are 18 conference games in basketball, and 8 in football. Playing everyone once and multiple teams twice vs. playing 1/2 the teams once and 1/2 not at all isn't really comparable.
Apr 29, 2010 10:16pm
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Apr 29, 2010 10:33 PM
Mulva wrote:
slingshot4ever wrote:
The Big East has 12 teams for the basketball conference. I never see you or anyone else complain about that.
I assume you meant 16 teams in basketball.

But there are 18 conference games in basketball, and 8 in football. Playing everyone once and multiple teams twice vs. playing 1/2 the teams once and 1/2 not at all isn't really comparable.
Exactly. Personally, I don't see the point in playing some of your conference one year and some the next. I'd rather see teams play every team in the conference, then you have a true conference champion. Not any of this, "You wouldn't have won the conference if you would've played so and so".
Apr 29, 2010 10:33pm
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Apr 29, 2010 10:42 PM
^thats why you have a conference championship game. example: florida and bama last year.
Apr 29, 2010 10:42pm
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Apr 29, 2010 10:56 PM
Pick6 wrote: ^thats why you have a conference championship game. example: florida and bama last year.
The Big 12 has a conference championship game and look at what happened the year before last.... still not a "true" champion.
Apr 29, 2010 10:56pm