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Scarlet_Buckeye

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Apr 28, 2010 9:42 AM
The person has already been identified earlier in the paper as Mr. Jim Johnson (first appearance). Now, throughout the paper, when referencing him, how should you refer to him?

Example:
When asked about the most vital aspect of corporate governance for a manufacturing/distributing firm, Jim Johnson commented that “setting the expectations within the organization that all personnel will act ethically and in accordance with laws” is of most importance.
Jim?

Johnson?

Mr. Johnson?
Apr 28, 2010 9:42am
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Apr 28, 2010 10:44 AM
The person has already been identified earlier in the paper as Mr. Jim Johnson (first appearance)
What kind of paper/article/story is this? Using the title "Mr." is a sign of deference and should really only be used in the appropriate context i.e. requesting a grant, loan, admission, etc. Otherwise full name is fine (Jim Johnson).

Once that is established "Johnson" should suffice throughout the remainder of the paper. Only problem would be another person identified with the same last name (Johnson) in which you would want to continue to use full names to distinguish identities.
Apr 28, 2010 10:44am
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Apr 28, 2010 11:56 AM
For a newspaper article, you would use last name or him or he or Mr. Johnson. It wouldn't be proper to use his first name only.
Apr 28, 2010 11:56am
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Apr 28, 2010 11:58 AM
Johnson ... I went to Journalism School, and according to AP Style, it would just be "Johnson" as the 2nd reference and every one after.
Apr 28, 2010 11:58am
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Apr 28, 2010 4:26 PM
BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Johnson ... I went to Journalism School, and according to AP Style, it would just be "Johnson" as the 2nd reference and every one after.
This. I work as an editor and that is the standard I follow.
Apr 28, 2010 4:26pm
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Apr 28, 2010 6:21 PM
Mohican00 wrote:
The person has already been identified earlier in the paper as Mr. Jim Johnson (first appearance)
What kind of paper/article/story is this? Using the title "Mr." is a sign of deference and should really only be used in the appropriate context i.e. requesting a grant, loan, admission, etc. Otherwise full name is fine (Jim Johnson).

Once that is established "Johnson" should suffice throughout the remainder of the paper. Only problem would be another person identified with the same last name (Johnson) in which you would want to continue to use full names to distinguish identities.
Thanks. That's what I thought ("deference"). The paper is a scholarly work.
Apr 28, 2010 6:21pm
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Apr 28, 2010 6:23 PM
BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Johnson ... I went to Journalism School, and according to AP Style, it would just be "Johnson" as the 2nd reference and every one after.
Thank you.
Apr 28, 2010 6:23pm
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Apr 28, 2010 6:23 PM
Websurfinbird wrote:
BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Johnson ... I went to Journalism School, and according to AP Style, it would just be "Johnson" as the 2nd reference and every one after.
This. I work as an editor and that is the standard I follow.
Thank you
Apr 28, 2010 6:23pm
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Apr 28, 2010 6:30 PM
Johnson is normal, although I have noticed in the Wall Street Journal they always say Mr. or Ms.
Apr 28, 2010 6:30pm
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fan_from_texas

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Apr 28, 2010 8:50 PM
When we file anything with a judge, we use Mr/Ms for subsequent designations.
Apr 28, 2010 8:50pm
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Apr 28, 2010 10:06 PM
fan_from_texas wrote: When we file anything with a judge, we use Mr/Ms for subsequent designations.
That's the opposite of what I was taught in Legal Writing, but it makes sense. That said, for something of general consumption I think it reads better to simply use the last name.
Apr 28, 2010 10:06pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:22 PM
Websurfinbird wrote:
BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Johnson ... I went to Journalism School, and according to AP Style, it would just be "Johnson" as the 2nd reference and every one after.
This. I work as an editor and that is the standard I follow.
Did you just pass the laptop over to concur?
Apr 28, 2010 11:22pm
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fan_from_texas

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Apr 29, 2010 8:01 AM
fiction wrote:
fan_from_texas wrote: When we file anything with a judge, we use Mr/Ms for subsequent designations.
That's the opposite of what I was taught in Legal Writing, but it makes sense. That said, for something of general consumption I think it reads better to simply use the last name.
I should clarify--that's how we refer to witnesses/parties, not the judge, when we file something with a judge.
Apr 29, 2010 8:01am
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Apr 29, 2010 9:34 AM
Sonofanump wrote:
Websurfinbird wrote:
BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Johnson ... I went to Journalism School, and according to AP Style, it would just be "Johnson" as the 2nd reference and every one after.
This. I work as an editor and that is the standard I follow.
Did you just pass the laptop over to concur?
haha, nah, we were both "not working" from our respective non-productive offices of employment ...
Apr 29, 2010 9:34am
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Apr 29, 2010 2:31 PM
BigAppleBuckeye wrote:
Sonofanump wrote:
Websurfinbird wrote:
BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Johnson ... I went to Journalism School, and according to AP Style, it would just be "Johnson" as the 2nd reference and every one after.
This. I work as an editor and that is the standard I follow.
Did you just pass the laptop over to concur?
haha, nah, we were both "not working" from our respective non-productive offices of employment ...
Yup. As I like to say, "this is why they pay me the big bucks." :rolleyes:
Apr 29, 2010 2:31pm