iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Apr 27, 2010 8:05pm
In a city where guns are banned...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/26/lawmakers-military-quell-chicago-violence/?test=latestnews
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/26/lawmakers-military-quell-chicago-violence/?test=latestnews
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Apr 27, 2010 8:16pm
113 homicides so far is an astronomical number. Its not even summer yet when I would guess most homicides take place.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Apr 27, 2010 8:17pm
Fucking crazy, ain't getting rid of my guns!!
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Apr 27, 2010 8:28pm
sounds like it is mostly gang violence. which means banning guns or giving every citizen a gun wouldnt matter much. the national guard could be used in a presence patrol sense where they are just out there being seen and just hanging out at public locations. and of couse like the article said, the intelligence and air units could be used.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Apr 27, 2010 8:30pm
Of course it is gang violence. Which bears asking the question, why the hell would you ban guns from law abiding citizens when criminals will always have them.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Apr 27, 2010 8:33pm
Liberals lack common sense.iclfan2 wrote: Of course it is gang violence. Which bears asking the question, why the hell would you ban guns from law abiding citizens when criminals will always have them.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Apr 27, 2010 8:34pm
^QFT!
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Apr 27, 2010 8:36pm
yeah, you can ask that question. but it doesnt really matter, i am willing to bet that most of the murder victims are gang members. you can give every citizen 10 guns, its not going to solve the problem they have now.iclfan2 wrote: Of course it is gang violence. Which bears asking the question, why the hell would you ban guns from law abiding citizens when criminals will always have them.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 27, 2010 8:37pm
No kidding. If I lived in Chicago I would move.iclfan2 wrote: Of course it is gang violence. Which bears asking the question, why the hell would you ban guns from law abiding citizens when criminals will always have them.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Apr 27, 2010 8:37pm
Well, if every murder is strictly gang violence, why not just let them kill themselves? If it doesn't affect anyone but gangs, why the need for the national guard?Glory Days wrote:yeah, you can ask that question. but it doesnt really matter, i am willing to bet that most of the murder victims are gang members. you can give every citizen 10 guns, its not going to solve the problem they have now.iclfan2 wrote: Of course it is gang violence. Which bears asking the question, why the hell would you ban guns from law abiding citizens when criminals will always have them.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Apr 27, 2010 8:40pm
I'm not trying to solve their problem, I could care less about some thugs shooting each other. The point is, banning guns does nothing to cease violence. Which was my point.Glory Days wrote: yeah, you can ask that question. but it doesnt really matter, i am willing to bet that most of the murder victims are gang members. you can give every citizen 10 guns, its not going to solve the problem they have now.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Apr 27, 2010 9:37pm
A lot of young naive teen boys are sucked into these gangs. They lack a stable family and likely no father figure. Trust me there are many scum bags in these gangs that aren't worth a pile of shit, but that is no reason to let lawlessness run amok. It is worth the effort to save some of the young men caught up in this bullshit. Also any civilized society should never allow rampant lawlessness to exist within its jurisdiction.tk421 wrote:Well, if every murder is strictly gang violence, why not just let them kill themselves? If it doesn't affect anyone but gangs, why the need for the national guard?Glory Days wrote:yeah, you can ask that question. but it doesnt really matter, i am willing to bet that most of the murder victims are gang members. you can give every citizen 10 guns, its not going to solve the problem they have now.iclfan2 wrote: Of course it is gang violence. Which bears asking the question, why the hell would you ban guns from law abiding citizens when criminals will always have them.
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yobro08
Posts: 237
Apr 27, 2010 10:32pm
cops need to shoot first ask questions later make thugs think first before they want to commit crimes and get a slap on the wrist
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Apr 27, 2010 10:36pm
That is what they do in Jacksonville, shoot up them thugs!!! Jacksonville (I don't have the numbers) has a high police involving shooting number.
Of course then the outcry all the time from the family of the thug that has a rap sheet a mile long, joined forces with the NAACP and cry foul every damn time no matter what happened to cause the shooting!
Of course then the outcry all the time from the family of the thug that has a rap sheet a mile long, joined forces with the NAACP and cry foul every damn time no matter what happened to cause the shooting!
gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Apr 27, 2010 10:44pm
Suicide by cop is a pretty popular way to go.Fab1b wrote: That is what they do in Jacksonville, shoot up them thugs!!! Jacksonville (I don't have the numbers) has a high police involving shooting number.
Of course then the outcry all the time from the family of the thug that has a rap sheet a mile long, joined forces with the NAACP and cry foul every damn time no matter what happened to cause the shooting!
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Apr 27, 2010 10:52pm
The article states that 113 have been killed so for this year in Chicago. In comparison 127 American troops have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan combined (99 were hostile deaths). I would say there is a serious problem in Chicago.
http://www.icasualties.org/
http://www.icasualties.org/
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Apr 27, 2010 10:56pm
i am going to be in chicago in a few weeks. i felt farely safe on the streets of baghdad. i'll report back and let you know how i feel on the streets of chicago.majorspark wrote: The article states that 113 have been killed so for this year in Chicago. In comparison 127 American troops have died this year in Iraq and Afghanistan combined (99 were hostile deaths). I would say there is a serious problem in Chicago.
http://www.icasualties.org/
sonofsam
Posts: 2,052
Apr 27, 2010 11:08pm
Because innocent people will eventually be caught in the crossfire. break the ban.tk421 wrote:Well, if every murder is strictly gang violence, why not just let them kill themselves? If it doesn't affect anyone but gangs, why the need for the national guard?Glory Days wrote:yeah, you can ask that question. but it doesnt really matter, i am willing to bet that most of the murder victims are gang members. you can give every citizen 10 guns, its not going to solve the problem they have now.iclfan2 wrote: Of course it is gang violence. Which bears asking the question, why the hell would you ban guns from law abiding citizens when criminals will always have them.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Apr 27, 2010 11:08pm
GD- I will also be going to Chicago in a few weeks. Of course I will be in Wrigleyville, so I won't be in the worst parts of Chicago, but I will still be staying in well lit areas.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Apr 27, 2010 11:11pm
You'd think that governments would learn by now. Especially since it has been years since "Death Wish" series came out
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Apr 27, 2010 11:30pm
same here, May 11th for a cubs game.dwccrew wrote: GD- I will also be going to Chicago in a few weeks. Of course I will be in Wrigleyville, so I won't be in the worst parts of Chicago, but I will still be staying in well lit areas.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Apr 27, 2010 11:32pm
I'll be there Memorial day weekend (so a month) visiting friends and also a Cubs game.Glory Days wrote:same here, May 11th for a cubs game.dwccrew wrote: GD- I will also be going to Chicago in a few weeks. Of course I will be in Wrigleyville, so I won't be in the worst parts of Chicago, but I will still be staying in well lit areas.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Apr 28, 2010 9:32am
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dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Apr 28, 2010 11:08am
^^^One time registration fee? Sounds like JJ.
4cards
Posts: 2,551
Apr 28, 2010 11:34am
...I love the idea of all these thugs whacking each other, keep thining the herd.
