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Apr 27, 2010 9:39 AM
I guess this could happen anywhere, but I am not surprised it happened in NYC.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_dying_and_ignored
Apr 27, 2010 9:39am
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Apr 27, 2010 9:50 AM
Yes, this is a big story here. Not defending the pedestrians at all, as this truly is sad, but if they had any defense its that you see all kinds of weird crap every day on the street here, including many homeless people just laying on sidewalks. Again, this poor guy was dead, and I am defending them, but sadly many people are immune to some of the whackiness that confronts NYC citizens on a daily basis.

RIP, truly sad ...
Apr 27, 2010 9:50am
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Apr 27, 2010 10:05 AM
it really sucks that it happened, but after walking around that city a couple of times, especially by myself up in the Bronx, there's some shit that you don't ask questions about and keep on moving
Apr 27, 2010 10:05am
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Apr 27, 2010 12:19 PM
I just got back from NYC and yes you do see a lot of crazy stuff there. We were walking down the street and a guy was leaning up against a building yelling I love this wall, I love this wall. When we walked back by he was just sitting on the sidewalk in a daze. We saw many homeless people and I looked at one and he came up and asked me if I would buy him a beer. It is sad, but I told my kids and my wife to not make eye contact with any and they will not approach you. This is bad though, if one guy lifted the homeless man and saw him bleeding and then just laid him back down and walked away that is terrible. I can honestly say that I probably would have just taken for granted the guy was sleepinfg and not really given it a good look and walked by too.
Apr 27, 2010 12:19pm
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Apr 27, 2010 12:30 PM
As someone who grew up in Queens and currently resides not too far from where the incident occurs (though far enough to be safe), I can sadly understand why that happened.

Jamaica is one of the worst neighborhoods in Queens with the exception of Jamaica Estates which is removed from the poorer parts of the area. Sadly a lot of folks there won't get involved in situations like the one detailed for fear of retaliation from another, or they are involved in criminal activities themselves.

When I served jury duty it was for a case that occurred in another bad neighborhood of Queens and the defendant was charged with attempted murder. There were no witnesses. In those parts everyone just keeps there head down sadly.

That said, I hope that people on here understand that Queens is the largest borough of NYC and has many wonderful neighborhoods with good citizens, but it like in any major city has plenty of bad parts.This doesn't at all excuse the actions of others at the scene of course.
Apr 27, 2010 12:30pm
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Apr 27, 2010 1:37 PM
I can honestly say I wouldve walked by as well. Shit, I am "fairly" grown man at age 24 and was in NYC for 5 different interviews with NBC last summer, I was scared shitless at times in parts that werent even that bad. There is NO WAY that I wouldve stopped if I was walking by that guy. Im sorry to say it, but its the truth. When I am in NYC and Chicago (only 2 places Ive been that have truly bad places, by myself) I look out for #1 and typically wont stop walking till I reach my destination if it is after sundown.
Apr 27, 2010 1:37pm
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Apr 27, 2010 1:45 PM
Websurfinbird wrote: As someone who grew up in Queens and currently resides not too far from where the incident occurs (though far enough to be safe), I can sadly understand why that happened.

Jamaica is one of the worst neighborhoods in Queens with the exception of Jamaica Estates which is removed from the poorer parts of the area. Sadly a lot of folks there won't get involved in situations like the one detailed for fear of retaliation from another, or they are involved in criminal activities themselves.

When I served jury duty it was for a case that occurred in another bad neighborhood of Queens and the defendant was charged with attempted murder. There were no witnesses. In those parts everyone just keeps there head down sadly.

That said, I hope that people on here understand that Queens is the largest borough of NYC and has many wonderful neighborhoods with good citizens, but it like in any major city has plenty of bad parts.This doesn't at all excuse the actions of others at the scene of course.
What part of Queens did Dougie live in and how expensive was his house?
Apr 27, 2010 1:45pm
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Apr 27, 2010 2:57 PM
LJ wrote:
Websurfinbird wrote: As someone who grew up in Queens and currently resides not too far from where the incident occurs (though far enough to be safe), I can sadly understand why that happened.

Jamaica is one of the worst neighborhoods in Queens with the exception of Jamaica Estates which is removed from the poorer parts of the area. Sadly a lot of folks there won't get involved in situations like the one detailed for fear of retaliation from another, or they are involved in criminal activities themselves.

When I served jury duty it was for a case that occurred in another bad neighborhood of Queens and the defendant was charged with attempted murder. There were no witnesses. In those parts everyone just keeps there head down sadly.

That said, I hope that people on here understand that Queens is the largest borough of NYC and has many wonderful neighborhoods with good citizens, but it like in any major city has plenty of bad parts.This doesn't at all excuse the actions of others at the scene of course.
What part of Queens did Dougie live in and how expensive was his house?
I'm assuming you mean Doug from the show the King of Queens? According to the always reliable Wikipedia they live in Rego Park. I'd say given what he and Carry do for a living this is a very realistic scenario. The average home is about $300,000.
Apr 27, 2010 2:57pm
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Apr 27, 2010 3:27 PM
this wasnt the first time and it wont be the last time.
Apr 27, 2010 3:27pm
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Apr 27, 2010 3:32 PM
Glory Days wrote: this wasnt the first time and it wont be the last time.
Sadly you are correct ...
Apr 27, 2010 3:32pm
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Apr 27, 2010 3:37 PM
Interesting Crime Rate comparison right here: http://www.morganquitno.com/cit05pop.htm

MOST DANGEROUS CITIES: #20 Cleveland, #21 Dayton, #25 Cincinnati (NYC not listed)

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: NYC = 5th safest; Columbus = 7th most dangerous (this surprised me)
Apr 27, 2010 3:37pm
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Apr 27, 2010 4:02 PM
BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Interesting Crime Rate comparison right here: http://www.morganquitno.com/cit05pop.htm

MOST DANGEROUS CITIES: #20 Cleveland, #21 Dayton, #25 Cincinnati (NYC not listed)

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: NYC = 5th safest; Columbus = 7th most dangerous (this surprised me)
even from just reading this thread though, i bet a lot goes unreported in NY.
Apr 27, 2010 4:02pm
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Apr 27, 2010 4:16 PM
haha and a quote from Ghostbusters that fits well "Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's God-given right."
Apr 27, 2010 4:16pm
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Apr 27, 2010 4:18 PM
Glory Days wrote: haha and a quoute from Ghostbusters that fits well "Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's God-given right."
You have to remember, Ghostbusters came out a LONG time ago. Pre-Giuliani NYC was a scary place. New York today is a very safe, great place to live. Can be a bit crowded (which is why I am happy I moved from Manhattan's Upper East Side down to Brooklyn Heights), but I rarely if ever feel "in danger" in any part of NYC.
Apr 27, 2010 4:18pm
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Apr 27, 2010 4:23 PM
Glory Days wrote:
BigAppleBuckeye wrote: Interesting Crime Rate comparison right here: http://www.morganquitno.com/cit05pop.htm

MOST DANGEROUS CITIES: #20 Cleveland, #21 Dayton, #25 Cincinnati (NYC not listed)

CITIES OF 500,000 OR MORE POPULATION: NYC = 5th safest; Columbus = 7th most dangerous (this surprised me)
even from just reading this thread though, i bet a lot goes unreported in NY.
While a lot does go unreported. NYC is indeed one of the safest cities. Of course there are areas to steer clear of, but overall it is MUCH better than when my parents were growing up. I mean they lived in Queens during the time of Son of Sam, talk about scary! Plus the subways were a nightmare and crime was more prevalent. Giullianni took a hard stand on crime and was very much criticized for this. However his efforts are apparent. The only thing I don't like was the Disney-fication of Times Square. But that is a whole other rant ....
Apr 27, 2010 4:23pm
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Apr 27, 2010 4:37 PM
BigAppleBuckeye wrote:
Glory Days wrote: haha and a quoute from Ghostbusters that fits well "Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's God-given right."
You have to remember, Ghostbusters came out a LONG time ago. Pre-Giuliani NYC was a scary place. New York today is a very safe, great place to live. Can be a bit crowded (which is why I am happy I moved from Manhattan's Upper East Side down to Brooklyn Heights), but I rarely if ever feel "in danger" in any part of NYC.
so you are saying the slime problem has been cleaned up? maybe i will visit there one day. i was always a little hesitate since the i heard about the river of slime below the city :)
Apr 27, 2010 4:37pm
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Apr 27, 2010 7:50 PM
I think the one that upsets me the most is the one that lifted him up, saw the man in a pool of blood, then just walked away.
Apr 27, 2010 7:50pm
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Apr 27, 2010 8:30 PM
(insert another excuse for people seeing crazy shit in NYC that defends them from caring)
Apr 27, 2010 8:30pm
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Apr 27, 2010 8:53 PM
friendfromlowry wrote: (insert another excuse for people seeing crazy shit in NYC that defends them from caring)
I wish you had more than 159 posts. This shit is pure genius.
Apr 27, 2010 8:53pm
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Apr 27, 2010 9:15 PM
New York is my favorite city I have ever visited. I never felt worried about my safety or the safety of the others I was with.

Stories like this are a shame. I'm sure things like this would happen in bad parts of many other cities in the country too.
Apr 27, 2010 9:15pm
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Apr 27, 2010 9:21 PM
Columbus is a shithole when it comes to crime.

I hate this city in the sense that it's really dangerous
Apr 27, 2010 9:21pm
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Apr 27, 2010 9:29 PM
LJ wrote: Columbus is a shithole when it comes to crime.

I hate this city in the sense that it's really dangerous
Not sure how much has changed since I left Columbus in 2000, but that stretch of Summit between just south of campus and downtown was flat-out scarier than anything in NYC ... well Manhattan anyway. There are parts of the South Bronx that still have that beat haha
Apr 27, 2010 9:29pm
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Apr 27, 2010 9:30 PM
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Apr 27, 2010 9:30pm
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Apr 27, 2010 9:32 PM
BigAppleBuckeye wrote:
LJ wrote: Columbus is a shithole when it comes to crime.

I hate this city in the sense that it's really dangerous
Not sure how much has changed since I left Columbus in 2000, but that stretch of Summit between just south of campus and downtown was flat-out scarier than anything in NYC ... well Manhattan anyway. There are parts of the South Bronx that still have that beat haha
Near East Side
Uzi Ally
Northland area
South Linden

All of those areas are basically STFO (stay the fuck out)
altough uzi ally was bulldozed a few years ago, parts of the area off Cassidy Ave are pretty bad.
Apr 27, 2010 9:32pm