SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:34pm
                            
                        
                                NFL? NBA? Professional soccer players (basically EPL, Serie A, Spanish Premira)
To me, I think if you want best overall athletes it has to be from the NBA.
                        To me, I think if you want best overall athletes it has to be from the NBA.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:34pm
                            
                        
                                overall athleticism it has to be NBA.  Theyre not the toughest or best conditioned...but theyre the athletic freaks of the bunch
                            
                        SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:37pm
                            
                        Would you go toughest-NFL best conditioned-soccer overall athleticism- NBA?Hb31187 wrote: overall athleticism it has to be NBA. Theyre not the toughest or best conditioned...but theyre the athletic freaks of the bunch
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:41pm
                            
                        
                                PBA, hands down.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:41pm
                            
                        
                                I say NBA.
                            
                        SQ_Crazies
                                                                            
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:43pm
                            
                        
                                Depends how you define athlete, people have different definitions.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:45pm
                            
                        
                                I would imagine the best conditioned are probably the soccer players. Constant jogging with the occasional dead sprint to the ball. At least in the NBA/NFL there are breaks frequently.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:46pm
                            
                        
                                NHL, hockey players go through hell, especially to win the Stanley Cup.
                            
                        Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:46pm
                            
                        
                                Id go toughest Hockey
Best conditioned-Soccer
Overall athleticism-NBA
                        Best conditioned-Soccer
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                                                                sportswizuhrd
                                                                            
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:53pm
                            
                        
                                Toughest-Hockey or Rugby
Conditioned-Soccer
Athletes-NBA
                        Conditioned-Soccer
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2quik4u
                                                                            
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                                Apr 26, 2010 10:55pm
                            
                        
                                Athletes- NFL, no doubt about it
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 26, 2010 11:00pm
                            
                        
                                The International Association of Curling.
                            
                        Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Apr 26, 2010 11:13pm
                            
                        
                                Most athletically gifted (AKA Freaks) --- NBA
Best shape and overall body build --- Soccer
Strongest --- NFL
Id think anything else youd define an athlete by would also come from those 3 sports. Possibly Hockey as most tough from a game by game basis, but not on a play by play basis...that goes NFL.
                        Best shape and overall body build --- Soccer
Strongest --- NFL
Id think anything else youd define an athlete by would also come from those 3 sports. Possibly Hockey as most tough from a game by game basis, but not on a play by play basis...that goes NFL.
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                                Apr 26, 2010 11:15pm
                            
                        
                                When I hear the word athlete I think of the NBA, mainly because of Lebron James.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 26, 2010 11:21pm
                            
                        
                                Hard to compare across sports.  All are better at certain things.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 26, 2010 11:37pm
                            
                        
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                                                                Sonofanump
                                                                    
                                Apr 26, 2010 11:47pm
                            
                        
                                Agree with most here on NBA for best athletes.
I think Iron Man triathletes are the best conditioned followed by cyclist.
Aussie Rules Football is the toughest sport if you don't count any combat (MMA) as sport.
                        I think Iron Man triathletes are the best conditioned followed by cyclist.
Aussie Rules Football is the toughest sport if you don't count any combat (MMA) as sport.
                                        
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                                                                OhioStatePride2003
                                                                            
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                                Apr 27, 2010 12:00am
                            
                        
                                I think the NBA has the overall better athletes. However, I think you take an NFL wide receiver, they'd compare in athleticism to an NBA player.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Apr 27, 2010 12:06am
                            
                        I agree with this.Laley23 wrote: Most athletically gifted (AKA Freaks) --- NBA
Best shape and overall body build --- Soccer
Strongest --- NFL
Id think anything else youd define an athlete by would also come from those 3 sports. Possibly Hockey as most tough from a game by game basis, but not on a play by play basis...that goes NFL.
Azubuike24
                                                                            
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                                Apr 27, 2010 12:25am
                            
                        
                                The NBA players are by far the best athletes in the world.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Apr 27, 2010 2:17am
                            
                        
                                I guess it depends how you define athlete--- hell, Peyton Manning is without question one of the best athletes in the world if you define it simply by someone that is really good at a sport. Personally, I would define it as versatility and the 'measurables.' By that definition, NBA players on average are by far the best athletes in the world. It isn't even close. Nowhere else can you find guys that are that long and can run like a gazelle, can change directions on a dime, and can get their palm 11 or 12 feet in the air. To play in the NBA you HAVE to be able to run, stay in front of people, get off the floor, etc. Not necessarily true in other sports.
                            
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                                Apr 27, 2010 3:35am
                            
                        
                                Their are two terms thrown around here in regards to athlete.  
1) Athlete as in a person who participates in athletics.
2) Athletic as in a person who is physically capable of doing things that are insanely difficult.
I'm guessing this topic is about #2.
Peyton falls into #1, while he's great at his sport, nobody is going to mistake him for being athletic.
NBA players fall into #2. Not many people can truly dunk on a 10 foot rim in a game on guys who are pushing 6'9-7'0 in the paint routinely. Not many people can keep up with the up and down tempo of an NBA game (soccer players obviously can), Not many people are able to twist their bodies while going toward the hoop the way NBA players can..
I mean, LeBron is a FREAK of nature. A 6'9'' 260+ pound dude should NOT be able to be as freakishly athletic as he is.
                        1) Athlete as in a person who participates in athletics.
2) Athletic as in a person who is physically capable of doing things that are insanely difficult.
I'm guessing this topic is about #2.
Peyton falls into #1, while he's great at his sport, nobody is going to mistake him for being athletic.
NBA players fall into #2. Not many people can truly dunk on a 10 foot rim in a game on guys who are pushing 6'9-7'0 in the paint routinely. Not many people can keep up with the up and down tempo of an NBA game (soccer players obviously can), Not many people are able to twist their bodies while going toward the hoop the way NBA players can..
I mean, LeBron is a FREAK of nature. A 6'9'' 260+ pound dude should NOT be able to be as freakishly athletic as he is.
SQ_Crazies
                                                                            
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                                Apr 27, 2010 3:47am
                            
                        
                                How does Peyton not fall into #2 also?  Is it easy for you to throw a spot on ball 40 yards while avoiding 280 pound dudes?  It's insanely difficult and he's clearly physically capable of doing it.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Apr 27, 2010 3:56am
                            
                        Peyton doesn't avoid tacklers lol.SQ_Crazies wrote: How does Peyton not fall into #2 also? Is it easy for you to throw a spot on ball 40 yards while avoiding 280 pound dudes? It's insanely difficult and he's clearly physically capable of doing it.
As for throwing the ball, cool. A lot of people can do that, however not many have Peyton's accuracy, I'll give you that.
But, Peyton is not athletic.
That's like saying a golfer is athletic because he hits longer tee shots.
Michael Vick was a hell of an athlete, not a great QB. There is a separation between the two.
SQ_Crazies
                                                                            
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                                Apr 27, 2010 4:05am
                            
                        
                                I mean, he does exactly what you described in your #2, yet you aren't willing to put him in that category because it doesn't support your argument?