Give me a break. I think a lot of us knew that he was a workout warrior but severely overrated because of his crazy measurements. If this is his attitude, I just don't see him being very successful as pro.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2011689057_mays24.html

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/04/24/report-mays-says-carroll-honest/

So Coach Carroll convinced Mays to stay and tells him he has nothing to work on and his game is fine.

1. Seems to me telling a player his game needs no work would only push him more towards the NFL. Wouldn't telling a player he has things to work on increase the chances that he stays?

2. Also seems to me that not having him work on his weaknesses would only hurt Carroll and USC's chances to win.

3. He complains that he would have been a first round pick last year, but wouldn't scouts have noticed these weaknesses last year? If he had these weaknesses to work on, why wouldn't that have affected his draft status last year?

4.He's also upset that the Seahawks picked Earl Thomas in the first. Are the Seahawks supposed to pass on a better player to make Taylor happy?

I tend to agree with Mays, if only because I know Carroll is a weasel and the way he acted when Sanchez left convinced me he never gave a shit about his players' futures beyond USC.

Mooney44Cards wrote: I tend to agree with Mays, if only because I know Carroll is a weasel and the way he acted when Sanchez left convinced me he never gave a shit about his players' futures beyond USC.

Good point but even if Carroll was looking out for his own best interests, wouldn't he want Mays to improve to help HIS USC Trojans. It doesn't make sense to just let him have these weaknesses that could, and did, hurt USC.

After all the shady deals PC had going on at USC, I'm surprised he didn't get something done here.

Pete always tried to get his guys to stay by any means necessary. We all remember what happen to Mark Sanchez when he left, Pete was heated.

This is why I justify the Browns not taking Taylor Mays.....If his own college coach passed on him, there's obviously a red flag there.

He should blame his play in the OSU game.

krazie45 wrote: This is why I justify the Browns not taking Taylor Mays.....If his own college coach passed on him, there's obviously a red flag there.

+1....Mays = not that good

BR1986FB wrote:

krazie45 wrote: This is why I justify the Browns not taking Taylor Mays.....If his own college coach passed on him, there's obviously a red flag there.

+1....Mays = not that good

If the safety position is the QB of the defense, Mays is like JaMarcus Russell. Physically all the tools, but doesn't have the mental game.

krazie45 wrote:

BR1986FB wrote:

krazie45 wrote: This is why I justify the Browns not taking Taylor Mays.....If his own college coach passed on him, there's obviously a red flag there.

+1....Mays = not that good

If the safety position is the QB of the defense, Mays is like JaMarcus Russell. Physically all the tools, but doesn't have the mental game.

Exactly. Pissed me off when all of the Browns fans were griping because we didn't take him over TJ Ward. Granted, Ward is probably not a superstar. People wanted Mays because of name recognition.

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