killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Apr 22, 2010 12:16am
this is a problem. when will the Reds realize that Aaron Harang is not a #1. He is not a #2, ....and possibly not a #3. You cannot continually trot him out there expecting him to be the stopper. It is early, and if the playoffs are at least a glimmer...changes need to be made.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Apr 22, 2010 12:19am
Over/Under justin deletes this? 
killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Apr 22, 2010 12:40am
Let me edit, that I am a Harang fan...I just think if the Reds realistically think they are goin' to go for it this year...pitching needs to be discussed early and often before July.
Where does Oraldis fit in?
If the Reds have no playoff aspirations this year...then just let it play out.
the Big Red Smokies are delicious.
I am one of the few that are just as apt to go to a Reds game when they are 10 games under .500;
but what about the rest of you?
Where does Oraldis fit in?
If the Reds have no playoff aspirations this year...then just let it play out.
the Big Red Smokies are delicious.
I am one of the few that are just as apt to go to a Reds game when they are 10 games under .500;
but what about the rest of you?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 22, 2010 12:43am
Adam Harang? Never heard of him.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 22, 2010 12:44am
How the hell can you have an over/under on something so absolute?CinciX12 wrote: Over/Under justin deletes this?
killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Apr 22, 2010 12:45am
justincredible wrote: Adam Harang? Never heard of him.
good one!
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Apr 22, 2010 12:48am
I'd still be patient with Chapman. He's going to be special, but you don't want to rush him like Bailey and Cueto. Make the right decision with this kid and stick it out with Harang. He's struggling, but it's still April. There's still 5 months of baseball to be played. However, don't expect to see the Harang of a couple seasons ago. Those days are LONG gone.
killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Apr 22, 2010 12:54am
another thought is...how long will Walt Jocketty be content to watch a loser club continually stroll out there with no chance of competing...?
It makes me sick to watch the B.R.M continually falter like this.
It makes me sick to watch the B.R.M continually falter like this.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Apr 22, 2010 12:55am
If the other starters were thriving there would be more pressure on the front office to get Harang out of the rotation. As it stands now he will probably get another month to turn it around before anything is done.
This will never happen but I would seriously think about a 6 man rotation, that way you can limit the innings of cueto, bailey, leake, and then wood/chapman. Of course if they can't go more than 6 it doesn't matter anyways. They only guy this would hurt IMO is Arroyo, he's proven he deserves to be out there every 5 days.
This will never happen but I would seriously think about a 6 man rotation, that way you can limit the innings of cueto, bailey, leake, and then wood/chapman. Of course if they can't go more than 6 it doesn't matter anyways. They only guy this would hurt IMO is Arroyo, he's proven he deserves to be out there every 5 days.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Apr 22, 2010 12:59am
You act like its my fault I forgot to put a time constraint on it.justincredible wrote:How the hell can you have an over/under on something so absolute?CinciX12 wrote: Over/Under justin deletes this?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 22, 2010 1:09am
EVERYTHING IS YOUR FAULT!!!!CinciX12 wrote:You act like its my fault I forgot to put a time constraint on it.justincredible wrote:How the hell can you have an over/under on something so absolute?CinciX12 wrote: Over/Under justin deletes this?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 22, 2010 2:41am
12-34 since the beginning of 2008. That is impressively bad.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 22, 2010 3:22am
I'd agree with that, if not for the fact that through the couple weeks this season has lasted, Leake (who has no minor league experience) has been their most effective starter. As a Pirates fan, he really impressed me. They got to him early on, but he didn't lose composure and wound up shutting them down long enough to turn 2IP/3 runs to 7IP/3 runs. Harang's been poor for nearly two full years, Bailey hasn't shown the ability to consistently pitch well, neither has Cueto. The Reds really need to send a message to the dead weight (Harang) and/or the underachievers (Cueto/Bailey).DaBrowns41 wrote: I'd still be patient with Chapman. He's going to be special, but you don't want to rush him like Bailey and Cueto. Make the right decision with this kid and stick it out with Harang. He's struggling, but it's still April. There's still 5 months of baseball to be played. However, don't expect to see the Harang of a couple seasons ago. Those days are LONG gone.
With some intelligence, they're a playoff-potential team. But if they trot out ineffective starters most nights, they'll be an afterthought before the all-star game.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Apr 22, 2010 9:39am
This season is shaping up like I feared it might. If they keep this crap up, expect a whole bunch of moves by the break. Harang, Arroyo, Cordero, Rolen and anyone else not nailed down to the floor could be gone.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 22, 2010 10:25am
Looks like he is 88-91 instead of 90-93. Not great location as he gets ball up in the zone...and looks like he has no movement on the ball.
recipe for disaster....he is like batting practice.
recipe for disaster....he is like batting practice.
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Big Red Monster
Posts: 436
Apr 22, 2010 10:46am
Never has been the same pitcher since the relief appearance in San Diego.
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Big Red Monster
Posts: 436
Apr 22, 2010 10:48am
Adam Harang?
Another classic!
Another classic!
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 22, 2010 11:54am
Damn! I didn't even notice that last night!Big Red Monster wrote: Adam Harang?
Another classic!
Between Adam Harang, Joey Cueto, Bernie Arroyo and Honus Bailey, I don't know how this team could lose ANY games!
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Apr 22, 2010 11:56am
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 22, 2010 12:01pm
Are you an idiot?killdeer wrote:justincredible wrote: Adam Harang? Never heard of him.
good one!
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Big Red Monster
Posts: 436
Apr 22, 2010 12:55pm
Listening to a game in the first week of the season, I heard Votto called Johnny Votto on WLW.
He must have some Johnny Bench in there somewhere, I dont know where, but it must be there.
He must have some Johnny Bench in there somewhere, I dont know where, but it must be there.
TigerNation10
Posts: 483
Apr 22, 2010 3:06pm
I would not be the least bit surprised to see Harang designated for assignment when Chapman is ready to be brought up.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Apr 22, 2010 3:10pm
Justin changed the title to Adam last night for all of you out of the loop if you couldn't figure it out by his post.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Apr 22, 2010 3:14pm
No way. He makes way too much money for that. Plus, if he is injured, which I think he is, you don't want to just dump a guy that could return to form later.TigerNation10 wrote: I would not be the least bit surprised to see Harang designated for assignment when Chapman is ready to be brought up.