Hey ratards, help me out with a philosophy paper

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CinciX12's avatar
CinciX12
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Apr 15, 2010 10:56pm
Disclaimer: I have my own original thoughts for the paper I'm not trying to have you guys write it for me haha.

Alright so the topic is that science does not make any progress, at all. Not one bit. Science is pointless and just goes in circles, etc etc. Technology does make progress, but science doesn't. Technology and science are two separate entities.

What I'd like for someone to do is tell me why thats wrong. I want to see how strong my argument is.

Thanks, bitches.

I don't really agree with the topic anyway, thats just the crap they told me to write about. So I'd appreciate the help.
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ohiotiger33
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Apr 15, 2010 10:58pm
Scientific discoveries are what make technological advances possible.
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sherm03
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Apr 15, 2010 10:58pm
Science makes all the progress...if you don't believe me, ask yourself one question,



"Fucking magnets, how do they work?"
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CinciX12
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Apr 15, 2010 11:01pm
ohiotiger33 wrote: Scientific discoveries are what make technological advances possible.
Obviously thats the most logical argument, and why I made the thread because I'm stuck on that.

I forget the professors wording on it but when that was brought up in class he rambled on about how the author doesn't think thats the case.

Thomas Kuhn. Thats code for communist.
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CinciX12
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Apr 15, 2010 11:01pm
sherm03 wrote: Science makes all the progress...if you don't believe me, ask yourself one question,



"Fucking magnets, how do they work?"
If I didn't care about my grade/had a better grade already in the class I'd write how ICP proves him wrong.
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sleeper
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Apr 15, 2010 11:04pm
Discovering new cures for diseases from scientific research is completely worthless, I agree with your prof.
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slingshot4ever
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Apr 15, 2010 11:11pm
Being someone that works in the medical device industry, I strongly disagree that science does not make progress. I think the general consensus is that technology makes progress because we create the technology, whereas, science is waiting to be found as all science already exists, you just need the right people that have the ability to figure it out. Mankind has slowly uncovered scientific information that has increased our odds to beat infections, prevent cancer, etc. Science advances as we discover what already exists and we learn how to apply it to specific situations. I truly believe cures for cancer, AIDS, etc. are out there, we just have not been able to discover it.

Alot of science comes by mistake too. The guy that discovered the polio vaccine, Jonas Salk, was doing something with the pasteurization process of milk I believe (it has been a while). This is why alot of people think that science is pure luck, which it can be, but alot of highly intelligent sceintisits would disagree because discovering doesn't mean shit if you don't know how to apply it to reap it's benefits.

OK, I need to stop before I write this paper for you. Those are some quick thoughts though.
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CinciX12
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Apr 15, 2010 11:18pm
Haha you weren't writing my paper for me, you were ripping apart what I wrote. I have to take the opposite side.

You made some great points though, thanks for the input!
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THE4RINGZ
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Apr 15, 2010 11:43pm
The enlightenment of man through self discovery is what fuels progress. Technology is a result of that enlightenment wanting a better/easier/more convenient life for all mankind that makes progress possible. Science discovers past trends whereas technology discovers the future.
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hasbeen
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Apr 16, 2010 1:01am
Without science, there wouldn't be technology. It took science to make technology(as has been stated).
Science is the thought. The scientific method is the process. Science was born of people asking why or how.
How can we make moving these rocks easier? Hypothesis: we can put them in a big box and move the box. Experiment: It helps but it takes many people to carry the big box full of rocks. How can we make moving this big box of rocks easier? Hypothesis: we can try getting putting these round things. Experiment: wheels are created.

That's science. Science is thought. Technology is the result of thought.
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LJ
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Apr 16, 2010 1:05am
pretty sure ICP is actually yout only option.
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I Wear Pants
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Apr 16, 2010 1:06am
Science is what enables technology.
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sonofsam
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Apr 16, 2010 1:30am
Matter is "stuff". "Stuff" is Matter....... Take it and run my man.
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Fly4Fun
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Apr 16, 2010 6:22am
CinciX12 wrote: Disclaimer: I have my own original thoughts for the paper I'm not trying to have you guys write it for me haha.

Alright so the topic is that science does not make any progress, at all. Not one bit. Science is pointless and just goes in circles, etc etc. Technology does make progress, but science doesn't. Technology and science are two separate entities.

What I'd like for someone to do is tell me why thats wrong. I want to see how strong my argument is.

Thanks, bitches.

I don't really agree with the topic anyway, thats just the crap they told me to write about. So I'd appreciate the help.


For us to challenge you argument we have to see it. That would be the best way for us to really critique it.
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OUgrad
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Apr 16, 2010 7:12am
Ratards (wth is a ratard)? Bitches? What a way to ask for help.
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salto
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Apr 16, 2010 8:46am
I think there's a few soldiers running around that are thankful for the materiel sciences.
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balk14
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Apr 16, 2010 9:25am
what about the whole caffeine and your heart thing - one year its horrible for you, then they discover a reason why its good, year after that the opposite happens...