"If they were still at their school" team

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Leonardo
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Apr 14, 2010 7:50pm
I think we had this a month or so ago, but if players hadn't left their college, what would some of the teams been like in the 09-10 season?

Anyone on these teams could have been up-to a senior in the 09-10 season, meaning they could have been at their college in 09-10, 08-09, 07-08, or 06-07.
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jpake1
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Apr 14, 2010 7:57pm
I often think about this. I think UNC would have won this year if Lawson and Ellington had stayed around.. and Davis not been injured.
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LJ
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Apr 14, 2010 7:58pm
Ohio State
Conley
Cook
Lighty
Oden
Koufos
Diebler
Turner
Buford

Shit, guys would play like 15 minutes, lol.
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jordo212000
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Apr 14, 2010 7:59pm
Greg Oden, Mullins, Lauderdale
David Lighty
Evan Turner, Diebler
Daequan Cook, William Buford
Mike Conley

Not bad, not bad.
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jordo212000
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Apr 14, 2010 8:00pm
LJ wrote: Ohio State
Conley
Cook
Lighty
Oden
Koufos
Diebler
Turner
Buford

Shit, guys would play like 15 minutes, lol.
ahh you beat me to it. I forgot about Koufos
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Trueblue23
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Apr 14, 2010 8:02pm
OSU would have been damn tough to beat...

Unless you're Memphis lmao
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ironman02
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Apr 14, 2010 8:05pm
jpake1 wrote: I often think about this. I think UNC would have won this year if Lawson and Ellington had stayed around.. and Davis not been injured.
Brandan Wright would have been a senior this season also. A Carolina team with Lawson, Ellington, and Wright would have been tough to beat.
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SportsAndLady
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Apr 14, 2010 8:05pm
I think Memphis would have taken the cake here.
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jpake1
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Apr 14, 2010 9:15pm
Those are some damn good teams.
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Azubuike24
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Apr 14, 2010 9:22pm
For next year:

John Wall, Brandon Knight
Eric Bledsoe, Darnell Dodson, John Hood
Darius Miller, DeAndre Liggins, Stacey Poole
Patrick Patterson, Enes Kanter, Josh Harrellson
DeMarcus Cousins, Daniel Orton, Enes Kanter
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wildcats20
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Apr 14, 2010 9:23pm
I hate these hypothetical situations.

In OSU's case:

If Oden stays for 4 years. Mullens and Koufos do not commit to OSU. I don't care what they have said about it, they would not have committed to OSU to sit for 3 or so years.

So these teams would NEVER have happened. But I guess it's fun to think about....
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jordo212000
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Apr 14, 2010 9:32pm
wildcats20 wrote: I hate these hypothetical situations.

In OSU's case:

If Oden stays for 4 years. Mullens and Koufos do not commit to OSU. I don't care what they have said about it, they would not have committed to OSU to sit for 3 or so years.

So these teams would NEVER have happened. But I guess it's fun to think about....
Yeah that's what my roommate and I were talking about. But it is fun to think about.

What would a parallel universe look like if all college basketball players were forced to play 4 years and couldn't leave early? I wonder where all the talent would go? Obviously Ohio State wouldn't be stacked with 3 centers like that. I wonder if this would benefit the mid-majors or whether these guys would go to other big conference teams without as much talent?
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mallymal614
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Apr 14, 2010 9:43pm
Starters
G: Conley
G: Cook
F: Turner
F: Koufos
C: Oden

Bench
Lighty
Buford
Diebler
Mullens
Lauderdale
Madsen (transfered to OSU before Oden class came in, so he would have still been on the team)
Crater (Said he wanted to play with Conley. Crater probably never transfers if Conley stayed in school)
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ZeroCool
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Apr 14, 2010 10:09pm
give me durant and texas.
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jordo212000
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Apr 14, 2010 10:16pm
ZeroCool wrote: give me durant and texas.
Ok, Durant and who else? Haha. DJ Augustin? Good luck.
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Laley23
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Apr 14, 2010 10:39pm
jordo212000 wrote:
ZeroCool wrote: give me durant and texas.
Ok, Durant and who else? Haha. DJ Augustin? Good luck.
Well, all you would need is Durant lol.

But James, Augustine, and some other great players would still be on Texas.
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cview
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Apr 14, 2010 10:50pm
I think it depends where Cal is at. If he's at Memphis you can add some of the UK guys as well as Xavier Henry to that team. I think there would be a lot of really good teams. Obviously all of these teams would look drastically different because they wouldn't rake in the kind of commits they have and who knows if Tyreke Evans turns into Tyreke Evans with Derrick Rose running the show or if Evan Turner puts up his triple double-ish numbers with Greg Oden cleaning the glass and Mike Conley being the primary ballhandler.

Ohio State, Memphis, North Carolina, Kentucky, Duke(this years team plus Gerald Henderson and Elliot Williams) would be the best IMO, with OSU and Memphis probably the cream of the crop. I honestly think OSU would have the best talent and/or mix of talent.

I also just thought of this team. I'm too lazy to see if some of these guys may have expired their eligibility but...

Jonny Flynn
Wesley Johnson
Andy Rautins
Scoop Jardine
Eric Devendorf, though he probably would fuck it up more than help. But if he's your 5th best guard then you're okay.
Rick Jackson
Arinze Onuaku
Donte Green
Paul Harris
^Hasn't been mentioned yet but that would be one HELL of a team.

I'd love to see these matchups. The guard play would be nasty. Conley, Turner, Rose, Evans, Wall, Johnson, Flynn were all or will be top 6 picks. Seeing those sets of guards going up against one another should be any college basketball fans wet dream. If this actually were a rule I think some of the UCONN teams from a few years ago would be sick as would Florida and UNC. It's fun to think about. Just quickly running through it in my head I think UCONN may have had Rudy Gay, Ben Gordon, Emeka Okafor, Josh Boone, Marcus Williams, and Hilton Armstrong on the same team while UNC could have started Raymond Felton, Rashad McCants, Marvin Williams, Tyler Hansbrough, and Sean May together.
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ZeroCool
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Apr 20, 2010 12:51pm
durant and anyother four over anybody mentioned. this kid in college for a second or third year? wow. no one in college could have defended him. nobody.
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Apr 20, 2010 7:05pm
Azubuike24 wrote: For next year:

John Wall, Brandon Knight
Eric Bledsoe, Darnell Dodson, John Hood
Darius Miller, DeAndre Liggins, Stacey Poole
Patrick Patterson, Enes Kanter, Josh Harrellson
DeMarcus Cousins, Daniel Orton, Enes Kanter
I'm gonna guess that Kentucky's team in three years would be the best collection of all time. I don't see Cal slowing down with the recruiting, and 2011's class we already know is gonna be loaded.
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2quik4u
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Apr 20, 2010 7:21pm
Felton
McCants
May
Williams
Hansbrough
Terry
Noel
Green


only team that would compare would be early 2000 duke team
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Azubuike24
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Apr 20, 2010 10:54pm
These are teams who would've actually been eligible last year. That UNC team is spread over about a 7 year period.
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wildcats20
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Apr 20, 2010 11:00pm
Azubuike24 wrote: These are teams who would've actually been eligible last year. That UNC team is spread over about a 7 year period.
Actually it's not.

It would have been the 05-06 team if May, McCants, Felton, and Marvin Williams all came back. Also throw in a Wes Miller who really found his stroke once those 4 were gone. As well as frosh Bobby Frasor and Marcus Ginyard,
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Azubuike24
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Apr 20, 2010 11:02pm
The original topic was about teams who would still be playing as of last year.

If we go back all-time over a 4-year period and pick the greatest teams, there probably isn't a team from 2000 or later that can compete.

So no, that UNC would not be "the greatest except for a Duke team from 2000"
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wildcats20
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Apr 20, 2010 11:04pm
Yeah I'm not saying it was the "answer" to the topic, but that team doesn't stretch over 7 years.
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Apr 20, 2010 11:07pm
The Hoosiers could have had a nice team. Had a few great players leave early in the last decade. Jefferies, Wright, Gordon. I've thought about this with them, but it'll just drive you nuts. Oh what could have been if Knight could have stayed.