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Apr 14, 2010 4:33 PM
Dickerson 8
Janish 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Rolen 5
Bruce 9
Gomes 7
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
Apr 14, 2010 4:33pm
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Apr 14, 2010 4:39 PM
I am happy to see Stubbs get some time off, I think he is a great talent but those strikeouts are becoming a liability at the leadoff spot.
Apr 14, 2010 4:39pm
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Apr 14, 2010 4:53 PM
Why the heck is Janish hitting in the 2 hole? You need to have a guy who can actually hit in that spot. I hate the fact that Baker has set spots in the batting order for certain positions. Leadoff must play CF, the 2 hole must be the shortstop, etc
Apr 14, 2010 4:53pm
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Apr 14, 2010 5:26 PM
How about those Reds. Off to a pretty good start. Perhaps this will be the turnaround year!
Apr 14, 2010 5:26pm
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Apr 14, 2010 5:37 PM
jordo, don't waste any brain power trying to figure out the logic behind Baker's lineups. Your brain will try to eat itself.
Apr 14, 2010 5:37pm
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Apr 14, 2010 5:46 PM
Have you seen the turnout for this series down in Florida. I hope the first two games does not turn Floridians from going to the ballpark. There might not be anyone in attendance for game four.
Apr 14, 2010 5:46pm
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Apr 14, 2010 6:06 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that there are more people at any minor league park in Ohio than there are at Marlins games. That is pathetic.
Apr 14, 2010 6:06pm
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Apr 14, 2010 6:51 PM
jordo212000 wrote: Why the heck is Janish hitting in the 2 hole? You need to have a guy who can actually hit in that spot. I hate the fact that Baker has set spots in the batting order for certain positions. Leadoff must play CF, the 2 hole must be the shortstop, etc
Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.

Reds starters ERA is 3rd best in the league, but starters have no wins, the bullpen has all five wins. A few blown saves, but none by Cordero. I wonder how many runs worse the bullpen ERA is vs the starters?
Apr 14, 2010 6:51pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:00 PM
mhs95_06 wrote: Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.
Who came up with that stat? Haha. His defense may be better than Cabrera's, but ultimately that bump in defense does not offset the fact that he is a career .205 hitter.

I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.
Apr 14, 2010 7:00pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:04 PM
Reds bullpen is not weary because the starters have been poor. They are 5th in the league at 6.1 innings per start, with only 6 teams at 6.0 or better, and two leams are at less than 5.0!
Apr 14, 2010 7:04pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:10 PM
This is what I would like to see for a lineup

Dickerson 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Bruce 9
Janish 6
Hernandez 2
Bailey 1
Apr 14, 2010 7:10pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:11 PM
jordo212000 wrote:
mhs95_06 wrote: Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.
Who came up with that stat? Haha. His defense may be better than Cabrera's, but ultimately that bump in defense does not offset the fact that he is a career .205 hitter.

I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.
I'm sure there are other variables, but the point is he doesn't hurt them too bad there.
Apr 14, 2010 7:11pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:28 PM
jordo212000 wrote:
I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.
Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.
Apr 14, 2010 7:28pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:29 PM
Homer gettin murked.
Apr 14, 2010 7:29pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:38 PM
Not what these two managers with weary bullpens want to see in the first inning:

Volstad 27 pitches
Bailey 24 pitches
Apr 14, 2010 7:38pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:43 PM
I was content with Bailey only giving up 1 in that inning.
Apr 14, 2010 7:43pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:50 PM
This inning looks to be a disaster.

2-0 FLA
Apr 14, 2010 7:50pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:57 PM
SportsAndLady wrote: Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.
Wouldn't the main stat that determines how solid of a hitter he is be his career numbers? :D At the end of the day he hits .205, how can anybody say that he is a solid #2 hitter? It makes no sense statistically. You tend to put your best/better hitters towards the top of the lineup so that they get more at bats. Why would you want a guy like Janish getting more ABs than a guy like Scott Rolen?
Apr 14, 2010 7:57pm
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Apr 14, 2010 7:58 PM
jordo212000 wrote:
SportsAndLady wrote: Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.
Wouldn't the main stat that determines how solid of a hitter he is be his career numbers? :D At the end of the day he hits .205, how can anybody say that he is a solid #2 hitter? It makes no sense statistically. You tend to put your best/better hitters towards the top of the lineup so that they get more at bats. Why would you want a guy like Janish getting more ABs than a guy like Scott Rolen?
There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.

"It makes no sense statistically."

Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
Apr 14, 2010 7:58pm
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Apr 14, 2010 8:09 PM
SportsAndLady wrote:
There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.

"It makes no sense statistically."

Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
His OBP is only .290, which is abysmal. Wouldn't one think that Scott Rolen or nearly anybody else who hits above a .270 clip be just as adept at situational hitting?

Also what difference does it make how good a bunter he is? We all know over the past year and a half the Reds have had non-existent leadoff hitters who never get on base.
Apr 14, 2010 8:09pm
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Apr 14, 2010 8:11 PM
jordo212000 wrote:
SportsAndLady wrote:
There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.

"It makes no sense statistically."

Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
His OBP is only .290, which is abysmal. Wouldn't one think that Scott Rolen or nearly anybody else who hits above a .270 clip be just as adept at situational hitting?

Also what difference does it make how good a bunter he is? We all know over the past year and a half the Reds have had a non-existent leadoff hitters who never get on base.
Look I don't know the reasoning, I was just throwing out possibilities.

All I'm saying is he must be doing something right, because you don't have that good of a winning record after 36 starts and it be coincidence/luck.

10 games, yes. 36?
Apr 14, 2010 8:11pm
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Apr 14, 2010 8:49 PM
After 4 innings:

Volstad 76 pitches, one run
Bailey 82 pitches, 3 runs
Apr 14, 2010 8:49pm
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Apr 14, 2010 8:53 PM
Why does everyone swing at such shitty pitches??
Apr 14, 2010 8:53pm
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Apr 14, 2010 8:54 PM
Buy or sell Chris Welch has a boner right now
Apr 14, 2010 8:54pm
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Apr 14, 2010 8:54 PM
lol

What's going on?? Thanks to Insight Cable and FSN, I get the Cavs on ALL 3 of my FSN channels.
Apr 14, 2010 8:54pm