Vatican declares that homosexuality is responsible for pedophilia in the Church

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FairwoodKing
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Apr 13, 2010 9:41pm
Every time I think the leaders of the Catholic Church can’t become bigger assholes, they pull something like this. Yesterday a top Vatican spokesman proclaimed that pedophilia in the Church is the result of homosexuality:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/sexual-abuse-occurs-10356388

But as the ABC News report also stated, competent psychologists agree that most pedophiles are straight. I know from my own first-hand experience from being gay that very few gay men are interested in children. Blaming the whole gay world for a few bad apples is totally inappropriate. Yet that’s the way the spokesman’s words came out.

The Vatican will do anything in its power to avoid responsibility for this scandal. First they blamed the media, now they’re blaming us. I wish they would get their shit together.
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LJ
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Apr 13, 2010 9:45pm
So would men who engage in homosexual activities with children not be considered homosexual pedophiles?
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iclfan2
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Apr 13, 2010 9:51pm
The only thing I agree with here is that the Vatican is kind of a joke. Other than that, I'm not sure how you can say these pedophiles are straight, but having sex with boys. It would be different if they were doing girls in the church. I would say it is homosexuality. Weren't you even on here before saying you knew some homo's that entered the priesthood because they were gay and didn't want to be?
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I Wear Pants
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Apr 13, 2010 9:55pm
FairwoodKing wrote: Every time I think the leaders of the Catholic Church can’t become bigger assholes, they pull something like this. Yesterday a top Vatican spokesman proclaimed that pedophilia in the Church is the result of homosexuality:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/sexual-abuse-occurs-10356388

But as the ABC News report also stated, competent psychologists agree that most pedophiles are straight. I know from my own first-hand experience from being gay that very few gay men are interested in children. Blaming the whole gay world for a few bad apples is totally inappropriate. Yet that’s the way the spokesman’s words came out.

The Vatican will do anything in its power to avoid responsibility for this scandal. First they blamed the media, now they’re blaming us. I wish they would get their shit together.
I know from my own first-hand experience from being straight that very few straight men are interested in children.

See how that works?
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FairwoodKing
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Apr 13, 2010 9:59pm
I Wear Pants wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote: Every time I think the leaders of the Catholic Church can’t become bigger assholes, they pull something like this. Yesterday a top Vatican spokesman proclaimed that pedophilia in the Church is the result of homosexuality:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/sexual-abuse-occurs-10356388

But as the ABC News report also stated, competent psychologists agree that most pedophiles are straight. I know from my own first-hand experience from being gay that very few gay men are interested in children. Blaming the whole gay world for a few bad apples is totally inappropriate. Yet that’s the way the spokesman’s words came out.

The Vatican will do anything in its power to avoid responsibility for this scandal. First they blamed the media, now they’re blaming us. I wish they would get their shit together.
I know from my own first-hand experience from being straight that very few straight men are interested in children.

See how that works?
It doesn't work very well. The vast majority of pedophiles are straight, even though they constitute a relatively small percentage of heterosexual men.

My complaint with the Vatican statement is that he made it sound like the whole gay world was responsible for their problem. That simply is not true.
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september63
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Apr 13, 2010 10:02pm
Fairwood, Ill admit as a gay man you must go thru life hitting some stereotypes you dont deserve. Thing is, you are the one bringing topics up time and time again just begging for ppl here to bash you.

I have seen and read you contradict yourself multiple times here.
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FairwoodKing
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Apr 13, 2010 10:05pm
iclfan2 wrote: The only thing I agree with here is that the Vatican is kind of a joke. Other than that, I'm not sure how you can say these pedophiles are straight, but having sex with boys. It would be different if they were doing girls in the church. I would say it is homosexuality. Weren't you even on here before saying you knew some homo's that entered the priesthood because they were gay and didn't want to be?
The priests have far more opportunities to molest boys than they do with girls. In some cases, it is a matter of opportunity, not sexuality. They molest whoever is at their disposal.

As far as the gays I've known from the priesthood, they were looking for adult men, not boys. The stories I got from them were very consistent.
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superman
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Apr 13, 2010 10:06pm
Like others have said, the are boinking little boys. Sounds like they are gay to me.
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FairwoodKing
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Apr 13, 2010 10:06pm
september63 wrote: Fairwood, Ill admit as a gay man you must go thru life hitting some stereotypes you dont deserve. Thing is, you are the one bringing topics up time and time again just begging for ppl here to bash you.

I have seen and read you contradict yourself multiple times here.
Show me where I have contradicted myself. I would like to see it.
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I Wear Pants
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Apr 13, 2010 10:09pm
FairwoodKing wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote: Every time I think the leaders of the Catholic Church can’t become bigger assholes, they pull something like this. Yesterday a top Vatican spokesman proclaimed that pedophilia in the Church is the result of homosexuality:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/sexual-abuse-occurs-10356388

But as the ABC News report also stated, competent psychologists agree that most pedophiles are straight. I know from my own first-hand experience from being gay that very few gay men are interested in children. Blaming the whole gay world for a few bad apples is totally inappropriate. Yet that’s the way the spokesman’s words came out.

The Vatican will do anything in its power to avoid responsibility for this scandal. First they blamed the media, now they’re blaming us. I wish they would get their shit together.
I know from my own first-hand experience from being straight that very few straight men are interested in children.

See how that works?
It doesn't work very well. The vast majority of pedophiles are straight, even though they constitute a relatively small percentage of heterosexual men.

My complaint with the Vatican statement is that he made it sound like the whole gay world was responsible for their problem. That simply is not true.
It works perfectly well. You said "from your experience you can attest that very few gay men are pedophiles". Well from my experience very few straight men are pedophiles.

The reality is that very few people are pedophiles.
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Footwedge
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Apr 13, 2010 10:10pm
FairwoodKing wrote: Every time I think the leaders of the Catholic Church can’t become bigger assholes, they pull something like this. Yesterday a top Vatican spokesman proclaimed that pedophilia in the Church is the result of homosexuality:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/sexual-abuse-occurs-10356388

But as the ABC News report also stated, competent psychologists agree that most pedophiles are straight. I know from my own first-hand experience from being gay that very few gay men are interested in children. Blaming the whole gay world for a few bad apples is totally inappropriate. Yet that’s the way the spokesman’s words came out.

The Vatican will do anything in its power to avoid responsibility for this scandal. First they blamed the media, now they’re blaming us. I wish they would get their shit together.
Not all pedophiles or hebephiles are homosexuals. But there are many more homesexual pedopholes/hebephiles than heterosexual pedo/hebephiles percentage wise. I've seen it listed as anywhere from a 3 to 1 ratio to a 10-1 ratio. To say that there are more heterosexual pedophiles than homosexuals pedophiles needs clarification, given that only about 2 to 5 percent of the poulation are homosexual.

So, the Vatican should clarify their claim. They should not blame the pedophile situation as simply being a homosexual problem.
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FairwoodKing
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Apr 13, 2010 10:16pm
Footwedge wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote: Every time I think the leaders of the Catholic Church can’t become bigger assholes, they pull something like this. Yesterday a top Vatican spokesman proclaimed that pedophilia in the Church is the result of homosexuality:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/sexual-abuse-occurs-10356388

But as the ABC News report also stated, competent psychologists agree that most pedophiles are straight. I know from my own first-hand experience from being gay that very few gay men are interested in children. Blaming the whole gay world for a few bad apples is totally inappropriate. Yet that’s the way the spokesman’s words came out.

The Vatican will do anything in its power to avoid responsibility for this scandal. First they blamed the media, now they’re blaming us. I wish they would get their shit together.
Not all pedophiles or hebephiles are homosexuals. But there are many more homesexual pedopholes/hebephiles than heterosexual pedo/hebephiles percentage wise. I've seen it listed as anywhere from a 3 to 1 ratio to a 10-1 ratio. To say that there are more heterosexual pedophiles than homosexuals pedophiles needs clarification, given that only about 2 to 5 percent of the poulation are homosexual.

So, the Vatican should clarify their claim. They should not blame the pedophile situation as simply being a homosexual problem.
Thank you. You said it better than I did.
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Apr 13, 2010 10:23pm
I Wear Pants wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote: Every time I think the leaders of the Catholic Church can’t become bigger assholes, they pull something like this. Yesterday a top Vatican spokesman proclaimed that pedophilia in the Church is the result of homosexuality:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/sexual-abuse-occurs-10356388

But as the ABC News report also stated, competent psychologists agree that most pedophiles are straight. I know from my own first-hand experience from being gay that very few gay men are interested in children. Blaming the whole gay world for a few bad apples is totally inappropriate. Yet that’s the way the spokesman’s words came out.

The Vatican will do anything in its power to avoid responsibility for this scandal. First they blamed the media, now they’re blaming us. I wish they would get their shit together.
I know from my own first-hand experience from being straight that very few straight men are interested in children.

See how that works?
It doesn't work very well. The vast majority of pedophiles are straight, even though they constitute a relatively small percentage of heterosexual men.

My complaint with the Vatican statement is that he made it sound like the whole gay world was responsible for their problem. That simply is not true.
It works perfectly well. You said "from your experience you can attest that very few gay men are pedophiles". Well from my experience very few straight men are pedophiles.

The reality is that very few people are pedophiles.
This.
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september63
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Apr 13, 2010 10:39pm
I have a bit of a problem calling a Catholic priest that molests an alter boy, a heterosexual!!
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CinciX12
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Apr 13, 2010 11:09pm
I have a bit of a problem calling him a priest.

I prefer sick mother fucker who should burn in hell regardless of the fact that he pretends to be a man of God.

I'll come back a little bit later and tell you how I really feel.
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FairwoodKing
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Apr 14, 2010 12:37am
CinciX12 wrote: I have a bit of a problem calling him a priest.

I prefer sick mother fucker who should burn in hell regardless of the fact that he pretends to be a man of God.

I'll come back a little bit later and tell you how I really feel.
You're right. Adults who sexually molest children are about the lowest form of scum.
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I Wear Pants
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Apr 14, 2010 12:52am
^^^ This.

And it seems somehow worse when they do it as a priest for a few reasons. They're supposed to be trustworthy and because it's disappointing the stigma that the scandals have brought to the great majority of priests who are outstanding members of their community just trying to help people. An overall shitty situation.
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Apr 14, 2010 9:12am
this whole thing has just reinforced in my mind at least that the Church is a joke...I don't know what religious affiliation if any I will take up later, but count me out as a Catholic. I'll still go to the occasional Easter/Xmas mass, but that's for respect for my family and my girlfriend's family. The Vatican can SMD, and I bet they would if I were younger.
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Apr 14, 2010 10:44am
That filthy organization has ran its course it is time to close up shop and stop darkening our doors.
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Apr 14, 2010 11:03am
superman wrote: Like others have said, the are boinking little boys. Sounds like they are gay to me.
Ignorant.
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jordo212000
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Apr 14, 2010 11:06am
derek bomar wrote: The Vatican can SMD, and I bet they would if I were younger.
I have to admit, I laughed at this, despite how messed up it is. haha
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jordo212000
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Apr 14, 2010 11:07am
Add me to the list of people who thinks that a dude boinking other males is not heterosexual. He may be bi-sexual? But I'm not sure why there is an argument about this.
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jmog
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Apr 14, 2010 11:18am
FairwoodKing wrote:
september63 wrote: Fairwood, Ill admit as a gay man you must go thru life hitting some stereotypes you dont deserve. Thing is, you are the one bringing topics up time and time again just begging for ppl here to bash you.

I have seen and read you contradict yourself multiple times here.
Show me where I have contradicted myself. I would like to see it.
Read any post that you start or post on from beginning to end, you'll see contradictions everywhere.

On topic, the Vatican is pretty retarded here. Why not blame idiot priests for their actions?
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Devils Advocate
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Apr 14, 2010 11:25am
It's those damn sexy little alter boys...... They had it commin,
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Apr 14, 2010 11:29am
I like the way this guy thinks!!!