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gorocks99

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Apr 13, 2010 3:15 PM
Big Ten, represent.

5. Illinois
6. Indiana
7. Ohio State
12. Wisconsin
17. Minnesota
19. Michigan State
Apr 13, 2010 3:15pm
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Apr 13, 2010 3:39 PM
Xavier, which generated $4.2 million from seat licenses last year, is the most valuable team from a non-major conference and one of only four teams whose value rank has increased for two consecutive seasons (the others: Kansas, Syracuse and Arkansas).
Yet, they can't seem to keep their coaches.
Apr 13, 2010 3:39pm
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Apr 13, 2010 5:08 PM
thedynasty1998 wrote:
Xavier, which generated $4.2 million from seat licenses last year, is the most valuable team from a non-major conference and one of only four teams whose value rank has increased for two consecutive seasons (the others: Kansas, Syracuse and Arkansas).
Yet, they can't seem to keep their coaches.
Hasn't mattered for about the last 3 changes.

Look though, Sean Miller beat Xavier at something! Bet his fat ass would win at an eating contest too. Well, maybe not against Kenny Frease. I think thats why Miller recruited him, to challenge him to fat, laziest slob in the tri state area.
Apr 13, 2010 5:08pm
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Apr 14, 2010 11:47 AM
Of note . . .

The Big Ten has the most teams in the top ten with three.

Ohio State is the only school to appear in the top ten for both basketball and football.

People can argue all they want about which is the best football conference, basketball conference, overall conference, etc, but there is no debate that the Big ten is the most lucrative conference. The Big Ten has the largest TV contract for football, the best bowl tie-ins, the biggest stadiums, the highest merchandise sales, and some of the top money earning sports programs in the country. The Big Ten definitely hauls in more money anually than any other conference.
Apr 14, 2010 11:47am
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Apr 14, 2010 11:57 AM
No doubt about that, and it's obvious when there are talks of teams like Rutgers, Notre Dame, Texas and Missouri joining the Big 10.
Apr 14, 2010 11:57am
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Apr 14, 2010 12:03 PM
Big Ten is the top dog for money for sure. It has the largest schools (enrollment wise) so you know you will draw big money from sports based on attendance and alumni spending.

When a school that isnt a state school (Purdue) is in the top 10 in the nation for enrollment, you know your conference has a lot of students...
Apr 14, 2010 12:03pm
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Apr 14, 2010 12:05 PM
thedynasty1998 wrote: No doubt about that, and it's obvious when there are talks of teams like Rutgers, Notre Dame, Texas and Missouri joining the Big 10.
This is the main reason why I think Notre Dame will end up in the Big Ten when it expands in a year or two. Right now every Big ten team makes nearly $6 million more a year in TV revenue for football than Notre Dame does. That means that Indiana makes more TV money than Notre Dame. ND does have the potential to make more bowl money in a given year than Big Ten teams do, but spread out over several years Big Ten schools will make more bowl money. There's absolutely no money to be made in the Big East and the Big Ten's TV contract is almost twice what the Big XII has. Right now the Big Ten and SEC are making heads and tails more in football TV revenue than everyone else. This is why I think we may be moving towards seeing the Big Ten, SEC, Big XII, and Pac-10 all expand into super-conferences.
Apr 14, 2010 12:05pm
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Apr 15, 2010 11:44 AM
krambman wrote:
thedynasty1998 wrote: No doubt about that, and it's obvious when there are talks of teams like Rutgers, Notre Dame, Texas and Missouri joining the Big 10.
This is the main reason why I think Notre Dame will end up in the Big Ten when it expands in a year or two. Right now every Big ten team makes nearly $6 million more a year in TV revenue for football than Notre Dame does. That means that Indiana makes more TV money than Notre Dame. ND does have the potential to make more bowl money in a given year than Big Ten teams do, but spread out over several years Big Ten schools will make more bowl money. There's absolutely no money to be made in the Big East and the Big Ten's TV contract is almost twice what the Big XII has. Right now the Big Ten and SEC are making heads and tails more in football TV revenue than everyone else. This is why I think we may be moving towards seeing the Big Ten, SEC, Big XII, and Pac-10 all expand into super-conferences.
While that may be true on the dollars and cents aspect of the TV contracts, what ND may be losing on that end they are making up for 10 fold when it comes to national exposure. I don't think I have ever heard of an IU game being nationally broadcast in 10+years.

As far as basketball is concerned, I'm interested in whether or not ND brings all their sports teams to the Big 10 because I too think thats where they will ultimately end up. It makes sense from a basketball perspective to me because they would be far more competitive in the Big 10 than they are in the Big East. Granted with a 96 team format the entire Big East minus 1 or 2 is going to the Tournament every single year.
Apr 15, 2010 11:44am
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Apr 15, 2010 1:30 PM
My rival high school had field turf, a track, a pool, a huge weightroom, beautiful practice facilities, lawyers/doctors kids attending there, etc.

When they crossed the tracks to play our poor asses, we smoked them like a fuckin' pipe.
Apr 15, 2010 1:30pm
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Apr 15, 2010 9:02 PM
dokken wrote: My rival high school had field turf, a track, a pool, a huge weightroom, beautiful practice facilities, lawyers/doctors kids attending there, etc.

When they crossed the tracks to play our poor asses, we smoked them like a fuckin' pipe.
Cool story bro.
Apr 15, 2010 9:02pm
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Apr 17, 2010 12:31 PM
trackandccrunner wrote:
dokken wrote: My rival high school had field turf, a track, a pool, a huge weightroom, beautiful practice facilities, lawyers/doctors kids attending there, etc.

When they crossed the tracks to play our poor asses, we smoked them like a fuckin' pipe.
Cool story bro.
I think he tells it at parties too
Apr 17, 2010 12:31pm
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Apr 17, 2010 3:44 PM
krambman wrote:

The Big Ten has the largest TV contract for football, the best bowl tie-ins, the biggest stadiums
Are you sure they have the largest TV contract? I would say that the SEC being contracted by CBS and now the huge ESPN deal trumps the B10.

I havent ever added up stadium seating for all conference teams for the B10, SEC or B12......but are you sure about your post? PSU, OSU and Mich have huge stadiums but what about the rest? Out of the top 13 stadiums the SEC has 6 teams listed while the B10 only has 3.

And you notice, I put ? marks because Im not for sure. Just wondering if you can back up your statement.
Apr 17, 2010 3:44pm
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Apr 17, 2010 4:14 PM
Classyposter58 wrote:
trackandccrunner wrote:
dokken wrote: My rival high school had field turf, a track, a pool, a huge weightroom, beautiful practice facilities, lawyers/doctors kids attending there, etc.

When they crossed the tracks to play our poor asses, we smoked them like a fuckin' pipe.
Cool story bro.
I think he tells it at parties too
Very likely.
Apr 17, 2010 4:14pm
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Apr 17, 2010 4:55 PM
cats gone wild wrote:
krambman wrote:

The Big Ten has the largest TV contract for football, the best bowl tie-ins, the biggest stadiums
Are you sure they have the largest TV contract? I would say that the SEC being contracted by CBS and now the huge ESPN deal trumps the B10.

I havent ever added up stadium seating for all conference teams for the B10, SEC or B12......but are you sure about your post? PSU, OSU and Mich have huge stadiums but what about the rest? Out of the top 13 stadiums the SEC has 6 teams listed while the B10 only has 3.

And you notice, I put ? marks because Im not for sure. Just wondering if you can back up your statement.
Yes, I am positive that the Big Ten has the biggest TV contracts. Outside the Lines did a story a few months ago about college football TV money and how the Big Ten had the most lucrative deals with the SEC close behind and then a big drop to the Big XII at number three.

The bowl tie ins between the Big Ten and SEC are about the same now becuase they play each other in like 4 or 5 bowl games, but the Big Ten has the Rose Bowl so I give them the edge.

And I'm not sure about total seating capacity, but when I said the biggest stadiums I meant the biggest stadiums, as in the three largest college football stadiums in the country.
Apr 17, 2010 4:55pm
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Apr 19, 2010 2:02 AM
I read somewhere that Ohio State basketball lost $3 million and change again this year.
Apr 19, 2010 2:02am
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Apr 19, 2010 3:35 PM
cats gone wild wrote:
krambman wrote:

The Big Ten has the largest TV contract for football, the best bowl tie-ins, the biggest stadiums
Are you sure they have the largest TV contract? I would say that the SEC being contracted by CBS and now the huge ESPN deal trumps the B10.

I havent ever added up stadium seating for all conference teams for the B10, SEC or B12......but are you sure about your post? PSU, OSU and Mich have huge stadiums but what about the rest? Out of the top 13 stadiums the SEC has 6 teams listed while the B10 only has 3.

And you notice, I put ? marks because Im not for sure. Just wondering if you can back up your statement.
Interesting thought...here are the BCS conferences in terms of seating capacity average:

SEC: 77,855
Big Ten: 74,305
Big XII: 66,298
Pac 10: 64,713
ACC: 58,405
Big East: 51,552

Standard deviation for the Big Ten seating capacities is the biggest though. PSU, Michigan, and OSU definitely drive the conference in terms of fans through the gates.
Apr 19, 2010 3:35pm
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Apr 20, 2010 12:14 PM
gorocks99 wrote:
cats gone wild wrote:
krambman wrote:

The Big Ten has the largest TV contract for football, the best bowl tie-ins, the biggest stadiums
Are you sure they have the largest TV contract? I would say that the SEC being contracted by CBS and now the huge ESPN deal trumps the B10.

I havent ever added up stadium seating for all conference teams for the B10, SEC or B12......but are you sure about your post? PSU, OSU and Mich have huge stadiums but what about the rest? Out of the top 13 stadiums the SEC has 6 teams listed while the B10 only has 3.

And you notice, I put ? marks because Im not for sure. Just wondering if you can back up your statement.
Interesting thought...here are the BCS conferences in terms of seating capacity average:

SEC: 77,855
Big Ten: 74,305
Big XII: 66,298
Pac 10: 64,713
ACC: 58,405
Big East: 51,552

Standard deviation for the Big Ten seating capacities is the biggest though. PSU, Michigan, and OSU definitely drive the conference in terms of fans through the gates.
I'd be interested in also seeing average attendance. Schools like Indiana usually only sell out when OSu or Michigan are in town, and schools like OSU, Michigan, and PSU exceed the listed seating capacity every game. I wonder if they would balance out and the average attendance would be about the same as the average seating capacity, or if there would be much of a difference.
Apr 20, 2010 12:14pm