Archive 5 leaving Kentucky!

77Legend

Posts: 615

Apr 7, 2010 9:20pm

Freshmen: John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe & Daniel Orton. Junior Forward Patrick Patterson.

Now what will UK and Calipari do? Is it worth recruiting these high profile guys? IMO, it may not be. Duke, MSU?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5064967

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Apr 7, 2010 9:21pm

There's already a thread about this.

77Legend

Posts: 615

Apr 7, 2010 9:23pm

Sorry, didn't see it. My bad....

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mallymal614

Posts: 3,746

Apr 7, 2010 9:27pm

When the last time a school had 5 players get drafted the same year? On paper Kentucky probably should have cruised to a National Title.

september63

Posts: 5,789

Apr 7, 2010 9:28pm

Duke graduates their players and they rarely move on to NBA stardom!! Ohio State recruits the one and gone players too, so I cant fault UK.

The system is flawed, for sure. What to do?

77Legend

Posts: 615

Apr 7, 2010 9:28pm

Shoulda, coulda, but..........That's the price college coaches pay now a days recruiting top players outta high school.

se-alum

Posts: 13,948

Apr 7, 2010 9:29pm

Has this ever happened before?

I still doubt Bledsoe and Orton's ability to make an impact anytime soon in the NBA.

jordo212000

Posts: 10,664

Apr 7, 2010 9:32pm

Not totally shocking. I expected most, if not all of those guys to declare

77Legend

Posts: 615

Apr 7, 2010 9:43pm

Sept63....I don't know if you took my post wrong but I was giving Duke and MSU credit for what they do with their players. Most are not Top Profile basketball players coming out of high school are they?

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Apr 7, 2010 9:46pm

77Legend wrote: Sept63....I don't know if you took my post wrong but I was giving Duke and MSU credit for what they do with their players. Most are not Top Profile basketball players coming out of high school are they?

yes they were. People get these thoughts in their head that just arent true.

Off the top of my head:

5 Stars:
Dawkins (Duke)
Singler (Duke...NPOY)
Smith (Duke)
Zoubek (Duke)
Roe (MSU)
Morgan (MSU)

4 Stars:
Allen (MSU)
Summers (MSU)
Lucas (MSU)
Sherman (MSU)
Scheyer (Duke...may have been 5*)
Thomas (Duke)
Plumlee (Duke)

77Legend

Posts: 615

Apr 7, 2010 9:50pm

Laley...I stand corrected, but one that you have wrong is Morgan according to Rivals, I just looked him up, he was a 4-Star.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Apr 7, 2010 9:53pm

mallymal614 wrote: When the last time a school had 5 players get drafted the same year? On paper Kentucky probably should have cruised to a National Title.

And they knew Wall, Cousins, and Patterson would be gone after this year before the season began. I think it has to be considered an enormous disappointment of a season for them to not even reach the Final 4.

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captain_obvious

Posts: 82

Apr 7, 2010 9:55pm

So... what you are saying is that going to MSU and/or Duke will cost you a NBA Lottery Pick?

77Legend

Posts: 615

Apr 7, 2010 9:56pm

^^Yes, major disappointment with all of that talent, but part Calipari's fault too!

se-alum

Posts: 13,948

Apr 7, 2010 10:05pm

According to Scout:

MSU:

Summers 5*
Lucas 4*
Green 4*
Lucious 4*
Roe 5*
Morgan 4*
Allen 4*

Duke:
Singler 5*
Scheyer 5*
Zoubek 4*
Thomas 5*
Smith 4*
Mi. Plumlee 4*
Ma. Plumlee 5*
Dawkins 4*

All of these guys were highly regarded out of High School.

Check this out.

Butler:

Hayward 2*
Howard 3*
Mack 2*
Nored 2*
Hahn NR
Veasley 2*

Azubuike24

Posts: 15,933

Apr 7, 2010 10:09pm

The Cats will probably bring in the #1 class again next year and start over again. I still expect them to contend next year, similar to what Kansas did the year after their national title. In 2 years, UK will be one of the title favorites as they are on all of the top, top players in 2011 and the 2010 class does not appear to be nearly as heavy on one and dones.

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Nate

Posts: 3,949

Apr 7, 2010 10:15pm

UNC has had 6+ years of 4 players drafted in the same year.

5 is astounding.

thedynasty1998

Posts: 6,844

Apr 7, 2010 10:27pm

How quickly people forget the situation that Camipari walked into just a year ago. He and UK will be fine.

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Apr 7, 2010 10:35pm

77Legend wrote: Laley...I stand corrected, but one that you have wrong is Morgan according to Rivals, I just looked him up, he was a 4-Star.

You are right. The top 30 that year were 5* and he was 33. I KNOW he was a top 20 at one point during his SR year.

But, people forget how good the players on these teams are because they arent the super frosh like Durant, Oden, Conley, Wall, etc. They forget that MOST freshman (outside the top 5 or so) take a year to adjust. But they are still elite talents.

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Footwedge

Posts: 9,265

Apr 7, 2010 11:03pm

se-alum wrote: According to Scout:

MSU:

Summers 5*
Lucas 4*
Green 4*
Lucious 4*
Roe 5*
Morgan 4*
Allen 4*

Duke:
Singler 5*
Scheyer 5*
Zoubek 4*
Thomas 5*
Smith 4*
Mi. Plumlee 4*
Ma. Plumlee 5*
Dawkins 4*

All of these guys were highly regarded out of High School.

Check this out.

Butler:

Hayward 2*
Howard 3*
Mack 2*
Nored 2*
Hahn NR
Veasley 2*

Incredible stuff on the Butler roster.

gibby08

Posts: 1,581

Apr 7, 2010 11:47pm

ccrunner609 wrote:
77Legend wrote: Freshmen: John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe & Daniel Orton. Junior Forward Patrick Patterson.

Now what will UK and Calipari do? Is it worth recruiting these high profile guys? IMO, it may not be. Duke, MSU?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5064967
And people want to talk shit about Duke players and the NBA..........Duke gets great college players and makes them champions, BTW Duke graduates their players with a degree from Duke University.

Good luck in the NIT next year John

Maybe they'll play Ohio State

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sportswizuhrd

Posts: 3,215

Apr 8, 2010 2:28am

Writer from draftexpress.com posted on Twitter:

Lotta talk in Portsmouth tonight about Daniel Orton and the fact that he apparently tore his ACL last year. Teams are concerned about that.

I bet he drops and returns to school. I think Bledsoe turns into a mid-late 1st rounder.

Azubuike24

Posts: 15,933

Apr 8, 2010 7:20am

Orton tore his ACL his senior year of high school. He missed nearly the entire year. He will almost certainly NOT be back, especially that he has left the state of Kentucky and after some of the comments made. Bledsoe is probably the only one with any chance to return, but even as a mid-1st, he would be sort of crazy to return.

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centralbucksfan

Posts: 5,111

Apr 8, 2010 9:28am

Can those people who KEEP talking about how Izzo, Coach K. and whomever else recruit "differently" please STFU now!? They recruit the same freaking players that everyone else does. And the above info just proves this.
I always get a kick out of that discussion, and its ignorant. How Izzo recruits 4yr players, guys who were 3,4 star players. Thats complete BS. These guys(coaches) are all after the best of the best. Some get them, some don't, but they are still after the 5 star players that are out there.

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Prescott

Posts: 2,569

Apr 8, 2010 10:05am

Can those people who KEEP talking about how Izzo, Coach K. and whomever else recruit "differently" please STFU now!? They recruit the same freaking players that everyone else does. And the above info just proves this.

Don't people remember how publicized the pursuit of John Wall was? They all knew he was a "one and done" player, but he was recruited hard by duke, UNC, and the eventual winner, UK